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Ben Purvis
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I have several hundred drainage and sanitary sewer structures to as-built and was looking for the best way to at least semi-permanently mark them for legible pipe size/location info per client request. Some markings would inevitably be on concrete, some on asphalt, and most on cast iron. Any suggestions as to best paint markers or other solutions would be appreciated. I prefer to not use marking paint if at all possible, btw.


 
Posted : February 17, 2016 1:35 pm
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Mean Streak Grease marker:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E3G396?keywords=mean%20streak%20grease%20marker&qid=1455738407&ref_=sr_1_fkmr2_2&sr=8-2-fkmr2


 
Posted : February 17, 2016 1:47 pm
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Sakura makes a nice paint marker

For fun

http://www.amazon.com/Solid-Paint-Marker-Color-Set/dp/B00NQHWQMY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1455754389&sr=8-4&keywords=sakura+paint+marker

I like these because the color is distinctive

http://www.amazon.com/Sakura-America-Solid-Markers-SAKXSC29/dp/B00260ZDB8/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1455754389&sr=8-6&keywords=sakura+paint+marker

For Metal I would use a paint pen, the Sakura ones and Pentel ones are good, the kind I prefer are promotional ones from Central Welding but I did not see them online.

http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-770222-Marking-Pen-White/dp/B001D4BQ0A/ref=sr_1_1?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1455754570&sr=1-1&keywords=paint+pens+welding

Clear Coat may be a good ingredient to throw in the mix depending on how you go about it.

I kind of hate these ones but they have their place, green and pink are the best for wet applications.

http://www.amazon.com/Markal-80260-Paintstik-Ambient-Surface/dp/B008980DCA/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1455755322&sr=8-14&keywords=paint+stick

If it does not need to last long this stuff, called keel in survey lingo round here, might be a good option.

http://www.amazon.com/Dixon-49600-Marking-Crayons-12-Pack/dp/B004SP2XVC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455755442&sr=8-1&keywords=lumber+crayon


 
Posted : February 17, 2016 6:30 pm
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Ditto the clear coat. Worth the investment.


 
Posted : February 17, 2016 7:08 pm
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I like the Mean Streaks as well, although I prefer the yellow ones. I have point numbers on control points that are 8+ years old and still legible. Sun doesn't seem to bother it. Although it says they write on wet greasy surfaces they do not work on wet concrete.

Haven't tried the Sakura brand although I'll pick a few up now thanks to Mr. Party Chief in case they are better.


 
Posted : February 17, 2016 7:14 pm

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I remember using yellow paint sticks on all sorts of surfaces of concrete, painted, wood and steel on construction sites.
There was never a name on them and I do remember they were latex paint. While still damp we would make a cross to mark the point and when dried it would last nearly forever.......
The boss made his way from mill to mill in his van full of surveying supplies.
He would pull up and we would go thru our shopping list and fill our backpacks with goodies and exchange our worn and torn tapes, rules and instruments for newly cleaned and adjusted instruments and new PB string, targets, etc.


 
Posted : February 17, 2016 7:31 pm
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party chef, post: 358351, member: 98 wrote: I kind of hate these ones but they have their place, green and pink are the best for wet applications.

http://www.amazon.com/Markal-80260-Paintstik-Ambient-Surface/dp/B008980DCA/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1455755322&sr=8-14&keywords=paint+stick&apos ;"> http://www.amazon.com/Markal-80260-...8&qid=1455755322&sr=8-14&keywords=paint+stick

Paint sticks are good for wet pavement. But I think it best to sketch the layout in the fieldbook are write your data there, then add point numbers to the sketch as you tie them.


 
Posted : February 18, 2016 8:04 am
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Mark Mayer, post: 358423, member: 424 wrote: Paint sticks are good for wet pavement. But I think it best to sketch the layout in the fieldbook are write your data there, then add point numbers to the sketch as you tie them.

I only use them to jot down the invert reading on the rim of the mh or catch basin grate or whatever. Then everything goes in the book after. Sometimes it's helpful to be able to just write it on the ground with pipe size, down measure, and direction while there are cars whizzing by...


 
Posted : February 18, 2016 8:38 am
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Dan Patterson, post: 358424, member: 1179 wrote: I only use them to jot down the invert reading on the rim of the mh or catch basin grate or whatever.

I can't imagine using a permanent paint marker to put invert measurements on the pavement. Are you sure you're not thinking about yellow kiel?


 
Posted : February 18, 2016 8:43 am
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I've written really small on the rim outside of the lid with those. Sometimes I use kiel on pavement like you are describing. I never actually wrote on pavement with those things.


 
Posted : February 18, 2016 10:39 am

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[USER=98]@party chef[/USER]

Cripes, I never even knew these things existed. Looks like it would be perfect for writing TBM elevations on manhole rims.
Thanks for the heads up! B-)


 
Posted : February 18, 2016 11:06 am