For the most part surveyors are permitted to provide as-built plans for most construction projects that have been designed by engineers. How about as-built plans for single family residences? I am in a situation where I have been told that I am not permitted to submit as-built house plans showing the interior of a single family residence, all I show are the internal walls with dimensions and label each room. I am not submitting the plans for construction or permitting purposes just as-built. Do you think it is a problem for a licensed surveyor to do this?
Thanks
Anthony
Who is saying you can't do it.
Who do they say should do it?
They, the Hawaii Real Estate Commission, are saying that only an architect or structural engineer can submit the as-built plans.
This is all state specific - you need to talk to someone on your license board.
Surveyors are professional measurers.
Ergo, if it exists, measure it and prepare you report IMVHO.
Cheers,
Derek
By that reckoning, only the HREC can prepare Condo Plats then. Somebody has there thought processes misfiring.
> They, the Hawaii Real Estate Commission, are saying that only an architect or structural engineer can submit the as-built plans.
As noted by SURVEYLTD's post:
>This is all state specific - you need to talk to someone on your license board.
However, I would report the Real Estate Commission to the Surveying Board for attempting to regulate the profession of surveying. If you have anything in writing from the Real Estate Commission forward a copy to the Surveying Board and request clarification of the Real Estate Commission's power to regulate Professional Surveyors. Don't ask if you can measure any part of a house, just ask which board regulates measurement of real property and improvements. Turn the government monster in upon itself.
I'm guessing this is a very specific issue. Who/what is in dire need of said as-built plans and what will they be doing with them upon receipt?
I agree wholeheartedly that the job should be done by a surveyor but it may require that said work be carried out in coordination with some other profession for the final use of the as-builts.
> For the most part surveyors are permitted to provide as-built plans for most construction projects that have been designed by engineers. How about as-built plans for single family residences? I am in a situation where I have been told that I am not permitted to submit as-built house plans showing the interior of a single family residence, all I show are the internal walls with dimensions and label each room. I am not submitting the plans for construction or permitting purposes just as-built. Do you think it is a problem for a licensed surveyor to do this?
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> Thanks
> Anthony
I'm a bit confused here.
In my neck of the woods, asbuilt plans consist of the original approved engineering/architectural plans, marked and clouded with the *changes* done during construction, signed and
stamped "as-built" by the engineer/architect in responsible charge of the changes. The idea is: modifying a set of stamped civil/arch. plans is also the practice of engineering and requires the seal of a person licensed in the appropriate discipline.
As an LS I certainly cannot stamp a set of asbuilt engineering plans. How would I know if the replacement of a called for RCP with a crappy plastic pipe is acceptable from an engineering standpoint?
The original house plans don't exist.
> The original house plans don't exist.
Most architects I've worked with would want the measurements of the existing structure made and certified by a surveyor. That would include lot lines and setbacks, outside and inside dimensions as well as elevation of entry points. Might include measurements of interior wall thickness and diagonals of interior rooms to check existing walls are square.