Architects asks for drawing to design something. Dwg gets send to him.
Response : please pdf-version, can't open dwg files. Idiots:pissed:, invest some money please
send him the link to download trueview instead.....it's free and you can open dwg with it!!!
Bentleyview is free.
beuckie, post: 362589, member: 2245 wrote: Architects asks for drawing to design something. Dwg gets send to him.
Response : please pdf-version, can't open dwg files. Idiots:pissed:, invest some money please
He's an idiot becasue he doesn't use the same software as you?
aliquot, post: 362622, member: 2486 wrote: He's an idiot becasue he doesn't use the same software as you?
I think dwg is pretty standard. Every software i know can import these files. I invest a lot of money in software updates, i don't ask for anyone else to do the same but i know an architect who still uses autocad R14 on a dos machine. I usually save in R2000 to send to other parties but sometimes that even isn't low enough.
There are autocad clones for 500$ (bricscad). After 10-15-20 years an update is a necessity also if you are taking yourself and your business serious (personal opinion).
This architect is no client of mine but works for my client separate. I just think that it is ridiculous to ask for a pdf to start drawing from.
Be funny if your client was posting the same thing about surveyors on Architect Connect. (;
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
If that's all the trouble you ever have with an architect, consider yourself lucky.
Calling someone an idiot because they don't use the same software as you is a bit short sighted dont you think?
Instead of blindly sending him a file that you can presume he can use, wouldn't it be more professional, if not required, to agree upon an electoronic deliverable prior to putting together a scope of work? What if he wanted it in REVIT format? Anytime an electronic deliverable is required by us, we clearly specify the format and clearly specifiy that any requested change in this format will be at an additional cost(presuming we can even provide the recommended format). If we cannot agree on the proper format, they do not recieve the product.
Dont get me wrong, I have had plenty of horror experiences with architects....as I am sure you have had too. The way to avoid as many of those issues as possible is to get things moving forwarrd in a clear and direct manner.
"No! I said I wanted the stairs laid out just like the drawing!"
beuckie, post: 362624, member: 2245 wrote: I think dwg is pretty standard. Every software i know can import these files. I invest a lot of money in software updates, i don't ask for anyone else to do the same but i know an architect who still uses autocad R14 on a dos machine. I usually save in R2000 to send to other parties but sometimes that even isn't low enough.
There are autocad clones for 500$ (bricscad). After 10-15-20 years an update is a necessity also if you are taking yourself and your business serious (personal opinion).
This architect is no client of mine but works for my client separate. I just think that it is ridiculous to ask for a pdf to start drawing from.
"I just think that it is ridiculous to ask for a pdf to start drawing from."
He's going to freehand it anyway! We have a local architect who somehow just freehands everything IN CAD! I have no idea why anyone would even consider this, but he has it developed to perfection.
WA-ID Surveyor, post: 362634, member: 6294 wrote: Calling someone an idiot because they don't use the same software as you is a bit short sighted dont you think?
Instead of blindly sending him a file that you can presume he can use, wouldn't it be more professional, if not required, to agree upon an electoronic deliverable prior to putting together a scope of work? What if he wanted it in REVIT format? Anytime an electronic deliverable is required by us, we clearly specify the format and clearly specifiy that any requested change in this format will be at an additional cost(presuming we can even provide the recommended format). If we cannot agree on the proper format, they do not recieve the product.
Dont get me wrong, I have had plenty of horror experiences with architects....as I am sure you have had too. The way to avoid as many of those issues as possible is to get things moving forwarrd in a clear and direct manner.
My guess is there was never a mention of electronic data in the original contract. Now a third party that didn't pay a dime for it wants it and the OP has to spend time & money producing it. Perhaps he will add a new clause to his contracts...
Jim in AZ, post: 362643, member: 249 wrote: My guess is there was never a mention of electronic data in the original contract. Now a third party that didn't pay a dime for it wants it and the OP has to spend time & money producing it. Perhaps he will add a new clause to his contracts...
I made up a proposal for an new division. The local governement asked for detailed plans by an architect how the new structure would be fitted in (structural). It's a raw drawing with no actual dimensions (how he takes measurements i don't know). My client asked some architect and i am sure that he charges enough for this but gets the data for free from me.
This is no problem but i don't want to waste my time to transfer my data in another format. Just plain dwg by mail should be enough. No, it takes a couple of minutes to sort this out and then another 5 minutes to read his mail for the pdf an reopen it (got other jobs going on). 3 similar calls and you lose 30 minutes.
If i receive a drawing from an architect i don't complain to him and ask to remove all the clutter and thousands off hatches that block my system.
WA-ID Surveyor, post: 362634, member: 6294 wrote: Calling someone an idiot because they don't use the same software as you is a bit short sighted dont you think?
When they are on site and are surprised that i can set a line with my car in the middle of it they are definately idiots:-D
I'm reminded of the marriage counselor who was advising my then wife and I on how to keep it together. Communication, communication, communication. There is what you said. There is what you thought you said. There is what you remember having said There is what she heard. There is what she thought she heard. There is what she remembers having heard Having all six of those possibilities being identical is rare. It's the same with digital communication. Just because I use suchandsuch software every day does not mean everyone else in the universe uses it every day or can even understand it after making a serious attempt to do so. Some of us are still trying to figure out what WTF and ROTFLMSAO means. :-$ A great deal of patience may be needed. But, the sword cuts both ways.
C'mon guys. It's an architect and he never encounters DWG format??? There are free tools to open/view/convert them to other formats. He should have that capability. Whether or not he deserves to be called an "idiot" over this is debatable.
An Architect who does not know how (or is not able) to open a .dwg, is oxymoronic.
I work with an architect who hand draws all of his maps, and doesn't email so a .pdf is out of question. But his plans are great and they actually work. Just because someone's business model doesn't match what most of the industry believes it should, it sure doesn't mean he is an idiot. As well as keep in mind he is in business to make himself money as he sees fit, not making some poor surveyors life easier by investing in something he doesn't believe he needs.
beuckie, post: 362624, member: 2245 wrote: ....This architect is no client of mine but works for my client separate. I just think that it is ridiculous to ask for a pdf to start drawing from....
Are you surprised your client hired you to perform a survey so he/she might hire an Architect? Which side of your clients' checks do you sign?
The Architect of AAARGH!
Jones, post: 362712, member: 10458 wrote: I work with an architect who hand draws all of his maps, and doesn't email so a .pdf is out of question. But his plans are great and they actually work. Just because someone's business model doesn't match what most of the industry believes it should, it sure doesn't mean he is an idiot. As well as keep in mind he is in business to make himself money as he sees fit, not making some poor surveyors life easier by investing in something he doesn't believe he needs.
Someone that draws their plans by hand these days is probably more than just an architect.
They have to actually double check their computations by scaling what they draw.
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