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A great day yesterday. City Council on Tuesday night voted to accept an old waterline the services Fairway Villas but city staff is to prepare the document for the easements. So my boss goes over to get details this morning and when he comes back I have already cogo'ed (coodinate geometry) the entire plat in and have all the necessary research for us to head to the field. Not bad for a trainee with only five weeks worth of training. LOL We head to the field armed with our real time ntrip GPS and all the search coordinates input into our data collector. Bang..Bang...Bang. We found nearly all of them but a few had been destroyed by construction. I gave the shovel a good workout though and the day was finally sunny for a change. Today is my required 8 hour Safe Driver class so I'll be in a room out at Vo-Tech all day today. The last one I went to was only four hours but well done and informative and entertaining. I guess they expanded the class so I'll pay attention and see if I can learn anything new today.

When shooting in pins for small jobs like then I put the legs on the GPS and let it take several minutes worth of data. That's when I have time to flag stakes and write them up so no time is wasted but the data gives me a bit more confidence.

And normally, the city would require the person, or in this case a neighborhood association, to hire a surveyor to do this work. This one though is really tight so they (city boss) wanted us to do it to insure clearances and to map any problem areas. And there are several on this job. But we will get it all sorted out. Everything fit like a glove today within reason. Not all at the plat distances but close enough to find and then shoot since they are the corners not some points on a plat. Plats and deeds. Yes, they help you find the truth but they are not always the truth. That's my philosophy anyway.

Deral

 
Posted : February 16, 2012 6:14 am
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Yeah BUT

Are you going to set those corners in the "correct" location? I mean those pins and pipes may miss the plat distances by as much as 0.10. You GOTTA get it right don't ya?

Good work Deral, I wish other municiplaities cared as much about getting things "right".

Andy

 
Posted : February 16, 2012 7:02 am
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Deral,

the weather and the job site are looking fantastic.
I'm stuck at the office for some more days working on as-built and longing for some surveying action in the harbor of Ghent next week.

Thanks for sharing,

Chr.

 
Posted : February 16, 2012 1:06 pm
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Andy, and more Lawton Pictures.

If you ever find a plat with my name on it that says Found 3/4" Pipe, 0.05' N24-21-03W of true corner then you have my permission to come and whack me upside my head with a shovel.

Found this the other day near a corner. Pretty cool and this is in the middle of town. Guess that old fence was there since the early 20's.

And these are becoming all the fave around our town. I bet we have a 100 or more now at business's. Nice, but I prefer the real ones out in our Wichita Wildlife Refuge.

And they are not all in large sizes. This is at the office of one of our private surveyors. Really nicely done.

That is Lester's office just behind and up the hill. Really nice office with no doors on any of the offices and huge windows instead of walls. It give you talking privacy of sorts but feels like a huge open area. I really like the layout.

Deral

 
Posted : February 16, 2012 2:26 pm
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Christof...I've got some days lined up in the office. We have ordered our seats of Civil 3D 2012 and I will have to sort it out and set up the templates, with Michaels help of course, and then start to train others. It is a big step but we have been heading this way ever since Eagle Point got out of the civil design business. Michael looked at Carlson for us and Civil 3D for the Engineers but finally decided that we should all be on the same product since we often are responsible for a lot of the design training as well at the city.

Michael is having arm surgery to put in a pin (motorcycle accident dirt riding) and I'll use those days and any rain days to start the process. I've already ordered two books based on input from Beer Leg posters and have begun going through them and putting the little sticky pull out tags on places of extreme importance.

I can remember a time surveying where we didn't have to continually learn something new. I believe it was in 1978, March 10 and it lasted about two hours. 🙂

Deral

 
Posted : February 16, 2012 2:33 pm

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Deral

Tell Michael I feel for him. I've got a plate and six screws in my right wrist from falling down a set of bleachers. And now I've got to have surgery on my shoulder. Rotator cuf is not torn but bone spurs on the end of the collar bone is impinging on it. PLUS the tenon from the bicep to the shoulder is separated and has to be re-attached. 3 months recovery time the surgeon tells me. ARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!! getting old ain't for sissies.

Andy

 
Posted : February 16, 2012 3:02 pm
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Deral,

No luck for me about the past time and have two hours of not having to learn ... I started surveying 10 years to late it seems. 🙂 Just kidding, learning is part of the game and I still enjoy that game.

The C3d part is interesting, we have it installed at the survey division but do not use (yet). The coding for the linework is not as powerfull as to wat we're used too. We decided to continue working with our local software and keep an eye on the C3d enhancements. We convert our 2d to a 3d (points and breaklines) and import these in C3d.
It would however be nice if we could set up a system to import our points and linecoding in C3d to work immeadiatly in 3d.
You allready know the magic C3d word I suppose? STYLES! You have to setup a lot of them ... don't see clear in that, so many options to set.
Keep us posted about that C3d adventure ... could be an interseting blog here ... there are allready some experts here who could teach us the ins and outs!

Speedy recovery for Michael,

and have a great weekend

Chr.

 
Posted : February 17, 2012 4:37 am
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I'm sure I'll have questions on Civil 3D but I'm going to read all the books and study some before asking ones that can be easily answered from a book. It should be an adventure for sure.

 
Posted : February 17, 2012 5:04 am
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You will for sure have Questions on Civil 3D! But Once you figure out styles, and get the styles set it up it is not that bad.

 
Posted : February 17, 2012 6:17 am