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Jim in AZ
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Anyone experienced in this? The Standards call for the building footprint at ground level. We have a multi-level condominium that has different footprints on different floors., Title company is intimating that they want each floor shown seperately, but we are balking. Anyone ever done something like this?

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 1:52 pm
flyin-solo
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Yes, I've done it. And there's no amount of money I'd take to do it again.

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 2:01 pm
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Never, I would show the footprint at ground level and any overhangs of the main building. And bldg ties to the overhanging building if that is the case. But that's just my opinion.

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 3:15 pm
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It becomes a detailed survey very similar to the original condo docs. As-build measurements of all of the rooms, units, wall thickness etc. Coordinate values on the unit corners, and exterior boundary and finished elevations tie it all together. Complicated, but doable, and expensive.

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 4:22 pm
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I haven't done such an ALTA. But I have done condo plats and condo conversions - converting existing occupied apartment buildings to condominiums. Its a very difficult thing, very time consuming. You have to get into each occupied unit and measure every which way, through closets and behind sofas, etc., generally while the occupant stands there and watches your every move. I envision an ALTA of a occupied condo to be all that, plus.

But, really. All that detail should be on the condo plat, shouldn't it? It would be like doing a bare land ALTA on a freshly subdivided plat lot. What's the point?

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 4:34 pm

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I despise Condo plats!

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 5:09 pm
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Like Mark, I've done it for condos. Each floor is tied to the property boundary. One of the worst jobs I ever did was a conversion. No one was happy and most completely uncooperative. Some people are just weird.
Recently I provided a map of a new apartment that had all kinds of "encroachments" into the street/alley above the main level. We located the horizontal and vertical components and plotted them on a detail sheet. Time consuming but necessary. It turned out that the City (a participant in the project) didn't care if it was above grade enough to no limit normal use of the right-of-ways.
I also have been part of an air-space survey with an ALTA/NSPS certification where the exterior of the building was the limits. Think lease area. That would be like a layer cake and not hard to do on a map. Leveling through the building to establish floor and ceiling height might be challenging but not difficult. Locating the horizontal limits would be more difficult. How are you at repelling?

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 5:10 pm
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Daniel Ralph, post: 384501, member: 8817 wrote: How are you at repelling?

Spelling police: I'm afraid I would be terribly bad at repelling invaders, but some women have found me repelling. I did try rappelling down a rope a few times in my younger days.

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 8:17 pm
peter-lothian
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Bill93, post: 384536, member: 87 wrote: Spelling police: I'm afraid I would be terribly bad at repelling invaders, but some women have found me repelling. I did try rappelling down a rope a few times in my younger days.

Grammar police: some women have found you repellent. :p

 
Posted : August 5, 2016 5:23 am