I performed an ALTA survey this summer that drug out for a few months. I did all the recon, trav and calc.'s back in July and then the job died for a few months. Last month the job picked back up and they had a closing date so I finalized the map and sent it out. Today I return to set the pins and find that the neighboring lot was retraced and two of the adjoining corners were monumented sometime between July and now. I agree with the position of the one monument, but the other monument is 0.6' different than my calculated position. I decided not to pin cushion the corner and left the job. Now at the office I'm questioning myself and think maybe I should have set the pin since I prepared a new legal for my parcel and it was used to transfer the property a week or two ago and it references a pin being set at the corner. I thought I would call the surveyor, but I'm not sure what that would accomplish as I'm pretty confident in what I came up with and I don't think he's going to pull his pin. We covered the whole block and found a lot of monumentation that fit the old record plat, we sure didn't find anything to change the corner by 0.6'. Anyone have any input on the situation?
Kelly Dunford
Yes. Call the other surveyor now with an open mind, you might have missed something. If you had pinned it first and the other surveyor computed your corner to be 0.6' off, wouldn't you want a call or a personal visit? It might be a simple staking error or one of you blew it. Find out now before it goes further.
jud
You agree with one but not the other. Maybe the other was set poorly (bad angle or misread distance?).
I would want you to call me if for no other reason than letting me know I need to double check something.
you sent out a signed and sealed plat?
In Texas it is a big-time violation of state law to send out a signed and sealed plat without setting the corners first. It is considered fraud by the State.
you sent out a signed and sealed plat?
Yes, I guess I did. The job went from no correspondence to were closing Wednesday, (two weeks ago) so with the jobs I had scheduled and dealing with the weather, today was the first day I could schedule to set the pins. I work in Ohio and there is plenty of survey brokered ALTA's being performed in the area that never get pins so I'm not going to loose sleep with the two week time span between the map and pins on a job that I had thought died.
Don't want to seem to be piling on, but
I agree with Mr. Chiles. In Kentucky, that would be a direct violation of the standards of practice.
Just this afternoon, I went to the boards website to look for a particular page. They used to have a FAQ section clearly stating that all monuments had to be set before releasing documents. I couldn't find that page, so I did a double check and found that the recently revised standards have finally specifically addressed setting monuments then releasing drawings.
I might post why I just happened to be checking particular fact today at a later date depending on what I discover over the next few days.
not that it matters, but i was just curious on the parcel size? small tract, acreage?
I would see it through, talk with the other surveyor and determine where the discrepancy may be- as others have said here, something may have been missed by either of you, or you may have done a more thorough recon of the area and have a better solution that may help the other PLS. You will never know the true solution until you have all of the facts. Unfortunately, this one would keep me up at nights until I had it resolved. 😉
I agree, call the other guy or pay a visit to go over what you've each found. You may have missed something or he may have. The goal is to give the landowners some certaintly and not to leave the neighborhood in confusion.
you sent out a signed and sealed plat?
A couple of days ago there was a thread regarding survey taboos. To sign, seal and deliver a plat prior to setting the pins would be close to the top of my list. It is no excuse that some other surveyors in your area are OK with this practice.
0.7 acre commercial lot.
Don't want to seem to be piling on, but
Thanks for bring my attention to this, however it's not a practice of mine to release drawings and then set pins it just worked out that way with the unexpected closing date in fact I can't remember ever giving a drawing out and then setting pins and after this incident I probably won't do it again.
