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Ah, the Fax Machine and the Chinese Translation

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I can't tell you how awesome it is to find that even as recently as 2007 completely illegible descriptions were being produced by various combinations of copying and fax technology. The instrument that got recorded even shows the headers from the two generations of fax transmissions that made hash of the original with a few copies of copies before and after probably thrown in just to add to the challenge.

The County Clerk dutifully stamped the one I'm looking at "ORIGINAL DOCUMENT ILLEGIBLE" without definitely stating that it was not in fact in Chinese caligraphy, which in my view was an oversight.

In some ways, this is more of an accomplishment than the instrument that describes the property conveyed on Exhibit "A" while neglecting to actually attach Exhibit "A". I mean any paralegal can leave out pages of a document, but it takes real work to translate them into what looks like Chinese.

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 6:44 pm
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> ...I mean any paralegal can leave out pages of a document, but it takes real work to translate them into what looks like Chinese.
Actually pretty simple to do by changing the font setting in Word. But surely something that the most cursory proofreading would catch.

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 7:14 pm
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That clerk stamp regarding the original being illegible begs the question -- why did they even let it be recorded if it can't be read?

Jeff

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 7:34 pm
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> That clerk stamp regarding the original being illegible begs the question -- why did they even let it be recorded if it can't be read?

As far as I know, as long as the instrument meets the criteria set forth in the following manual, the County Clerk is not authorized to decline to record it.

http://www.courts.state.tx.us/pubs/manuals/cclerk/ch2.pdf

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 7:48 pm
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> > ...I mean any paralegal can leave out pages of a document, but it takes real work to translate them into what looks like Chinese.
> Actually pretty simple to do by changing the font setting in Word. But surely something that the most cursory proofreading would catch.

Well, that would be a major amount of work since you'd have to run the description that you photocopied from some other instrument through OCR software to digitize it for further efforts. I don't get the idea that the law offices that churn out some of these documents would have the time for that.

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 7:51 pm
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Ah, the Fax Machine

I have neither sent nor received a fax in at least a decade. Given my druthers I would leave the fax number off my business card. My new employer's marketing people continue to include them. IMO, it is at the point where you begin to look archaic by their inclusion. So I ask:

1) When was the last time you sent a fax?
2) received one?
3) Do you have a fax?
4) Do you include a fax number on your marketing material?
5) When do you think you may stop?

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 8:18 pm
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Ah, the Fax Machine

> 1) When was the last time you sent a fax?

It's been years.

> 2) received one?

Some clients still like to send faxes, believe it or not.

> 3) Do you have a fax [machine]?

Sure.

> 4) Do you include a fax number on your marketing material?

I don't sent out marketing material, but I have the number my letterhead.

> 5) When do you think you may stop?

Stop what? Letting clients who want to send me faxes know that I have a fax machine?

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 8:22 pm
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Ah, the Fax Machine

> Stop what?
a) Maintaining a fax machine
b) Paying for a dedicated fax line
c) including the number on your letterhead

I guess that I can see maintaining a capability to send and receive, but I think that the time has come to drop the number from your marketing. We would be better off using the space to reference a Linkedin or Facebook page.

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 8:43 pm
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Ah, the Fax Machine

> > Stop what?
> a) Maintaining a fax machine

The scanner/printer/fax combos will probably be around for awhile. Even if you don't use the fax capability, it comes along for nearly free (if you don't count materials wasted on junk faxes received).

> b) Paying for a dedicated fax line

For my low usage, I just pay a bit extra for a distinctive ring on one line and the fax machine recognizes the ring and answers. Humans know it's an incoming fax.

> c) including the number on your letterhead

As long as my clients have fax machines and want to send me faxes, I'll continue to list the number on my letterhead.

> I guess that I can see maintaining a capability to send and receive, but I think that the time has come to drop the number from your marketing.

Just about 100% of my clients come to me by referral. My niche is so specialized that I'm pretty much guaranteed that most prospective clients that "marketing" might pull in would be the sort of clients who would mainly be just a distraction from work. I'm sure that if I had a large Surveying Machine to feed, I'd approach the matter differently.

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 8:55 pm
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Ah, the Fax Machine

> 1) When was the last time you sent a fax?

Within the last year, though I can't recall specifics.

> 2) received one?

Within the last couple of months, but that was probably the first one this year.

> 3) Do you have a fax?

I have a fax modem in my computer.

> 4) Do you include a fax number on your marketing material?

Not anymore.

> 5) When do you think you may stop?

See answer No. 4.

When I ditched my dedicated data/fax line a couple of years ago, I also ditched the fax machine. In order to receive a fax now I have to set the modem to pick up after 3 rings or fewer in order to keep the call from going to voicemail. It basically requires that the sender notify me that they're about to send a fax, I change the setting, receive the fax, and change the setting back. It's a kludgy system, but it does allow me to receive a fax when that's the only way a client knows how to transmit a document immediately.

Sending a fax is easier, I just send the file (which I may have to create first by scanning a paper document) to the fax "printer," and off it goes.

 
Posted : September 1, 2014 9:24 pm
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Ah, the Fax Machine

> I have neither sent nor received a fax in at least a decade. Given my druthers I would leave the fax number off my business card. My new employer's marketing people continue to include them. IMO, it is at the point where you begin to look archaic by their inclusion. So I ask:
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> 1) When was the last time you sent a fax?
A couple years ago

> 2) received one?
Quite a few years ago

> 3) Do you have a fax?
I do (fax/printer/scanner), company I work for has a fax which gets regular use.

> 4) Do you include a fax number on your marketing material?
> 5) When do you think you may stop?
When people/clients stop requesting it.

The company I work for does some work for an Amish community. One could wish they would use a fax machine, don't see that happening. Other clients don't have a computer and do not want one, hence the fax. We still get drawings on things ranging from (essentially) cocktail napkins to regular paper and faxed.

 
Posted : September 2, 2014 2:32 am
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After a cursory review of the linked PDF, I agree with you.

I note that the clerk may seek advice from the district attorney to verify the suitability of a document for recording. I wonder if legibility might be a factor of that suitability.

I'm sure we've all seen this situation before.

Jeff

 
Posted : September 2, 2014 2:37 am
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Ah, the Fax Machine

Stopped using Efax about a year or so ago. One client(agency) persisted until they ceased and went to email/snail mail for RFPs
Real fax machines had the most annoying sounds to me. Both the sound of it's I operation and on the phone when you mistakenly called.

 
Posted : September 2, 2014 4:15 am