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@field-dog?ÿ

That's the problem, the only formal naming you will find is in local ordinances, and that is the only place it matters. The definitions used in PA will not be applicable to Maine...

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 10:52 am
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I have seen the term "eyebrow' applied to a half cul-de-sac, but this is more than that.?ÿ

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 10:54 am
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@james-fleming?ÿ

That's very interesting, thank you.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 10:59 am
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@richard-imrie The way I've seen it done is you build a template based on the average house building pad envelope for the site. Then you offset & connect the envelope based on the front/rear side setbacks. Add a line for half the right-of-way width.?ÿ Now you just spend some time trying to jam as many of these on the site as you can with no overlap.

Rather than designing the roads first, connecting the right-of-way "lollipops" give you the starting point for the road centerlines.

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Posted : 12/08/2021 11:25 am
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The Wikipedia article is an artfully disguised advertisement for LandMentor software.?ÿ I'm surprised that it's gotten by the Wikipedia editors.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 12:02 pm
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@mathteacher?ÿ

Lot 16 certainly has a narrow frontage.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 12:48 pm
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@holy-cow?ÿ

Someone at work commented that CAD ended the predominance of straight streets.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 12:53 pm
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@james-fleming?ÿ

Interesting article. The article talks about non-uniform lot shapes. Speaking of lot shapes, I once saw a plat from California with lots called Z lots. The lots are uniform, but the adjoining lot lines zigzag. Was this done to fit more lots into a given area?

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 1:11 pm
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@holy-cow?ÿ

Johnsonville. Peter Street.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 1:12 pm
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@ric-moore?ÿ

I meant it as cul-de-sac that fits the definition as used by surveyors.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 1:15 pm
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Posted by: @field-dog

I wouldn't have wanted to calculate all the curves you see nowadays without electronics. And those curves I've seen on old plats have often been messed up, fitting neither arc nor chord definitions.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 1:18 pm
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@field-dog Instead of privacy the bump out/cul-de-sac was likely designed to create extra frontage to the roadway for those lots. Lots 15 and 16 wouldn't have much, if any, frontage were they to connect to the smooth curve of the road.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 1:43 pm
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@field-dog?ÿ

It is small, but I don't like through streets that can become crowded shortcuts. Avoiding that is one of the curb appeals of a cult de sac.

We don't see enough here to know, so I might would change my mind after seeing the full picture.

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 4:17 pm
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@mathteacher?ÿ

Forgive me my friend as I am a sinner, but I can't resist this typo.

"cult de sac"

I'm picturing some aging 1960's hippies who never left the communal lifestyle all decked out in gunny sacks as they graze their goats on the lawns in their cult de sac world. "The love is free, but bring your own Viagra."

 
Posted : 12/08/2021 5:48 pm
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@holy-cow?ÿ

LOL! Actually, a lot of cul-de-sac residents around these parts are a kind of cult. More addicted to toddies and caviar than live goats, but cultish anyway.

As for me, I live in a nondescript circle built in the 60s where everybody is armed to the teeth and passing vehicles are routinely photographed by security cameras, game cameras, and radar guns. No goats, but one of my neighbors raises his own chickens. Our deeds prohibit hog lots, though.

We have a couple of intellectuals, but both of them can shoot quite well.

Thanks for the correction.

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Posted : 12/08/2021 6:01 pm
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