If you would like a FREE copy of The Surveyor's Contracts and Risk Management Manual send $5 to
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To be fair, here is the entire offer, not just the first line.
If you would like a FREE copy of The Surveyor's Contracts and Risk Management Manual send $5 to cover the cost of shipping and handling to NSPS, Attn: Trish Milburn, 5119 Pegasus Court, Suite Q, Frederick, MD 21704. Please make checks payable to NSPS and in the memo field write Contracts Manual.
exactly why I am not a NSPS member anymore, their costs are out of line. they should send all that to their membership for free, instead they are like an over bloated government agency, looking for revenue streams.
I agree with you. They should force the Post Office to mail it for free. Or better yet, turn all the NSPS members into deliverers. Each member could be assigned an area, and they could drive all over dropping those books off.
try the sarcasm font tommy. it works better
$5 to do a class c mailing, ridiculous considering the membership fee. now if the membership fee was $50, or even $100, I could understand their need to squeeze the shirt off of lincoln...
Actually, under the reorganization plan you can get membership for about $40. But, your state organization has to vote for inclusion. All in the state org would then become members of NSPS and your state dues would go up $40. It's important to have a national voice and presence. I hope all states will sign on and give the new organization a chance. It is not ACSM anymore.
How big is this manual? Are we talking pamphlet or "2009 Manual" sized?
Ive been waiting for an email from "Trish" for about a week and a half now. I was going to apply for the CST4 exam this cycle, but can not get an answer on where to send it. The address on the application is different than the address on their site and mentioned here.
The Minnesota society has just had an online vote on that subject. I voted for it. Results haven't been announced yet.
As Duane says, it's not ACSM any more (or won't be for very long). Time to get on board if we want a national organization that works.
I defy any of you ....
that are complaining about a $5 mailing cost for a manual to:
1.) Secure the mailing / packaging supplies
2.) Take time to do an address label, put it in the mailer, apply postage, etc.
3.) Pay for the postage
4.) Take it to the post office
And really claim you did the job for $5.
This is not a profit center for NSPS. It's partial cost recovery.
So quit your _itching and become a member. Or as has been pointed out - get your state on board for 100% and you can be a member for $40.
I defy any of you ....
If you think NSPS is a good value then join up and pay them whatever you like. I dont think the membership costs are a good value so I dont join, its really simple. I dont see anywhere I can get a $40 dollar membership, here the state is $195 and the national is $225 or more...
> Ive been waiting for an email from "Trish" for about a week and a half now. I was going to apply for the CST4 exam this cycle, but can not get an answer on where to send it. The address on the application is different than the address on their site and mentioned here.
They recently moved the offices from Gaithersburg, MD to Frederick, MD
The mailing address from their website is the same that Holy Cow gave--
National Society of Professional Surveyors - NSPS
5119 Pegasus Court, Suite Q
Frederick, MD 21704
The first contact listed for the CST certification program is Sara, whose e-mail is sara dot maggi at nsps dot us dot com.
I defy any of you ....
According to a map sent out recently by NSPS, the NC society is working on that. So the $40 membership will be coming your way.
I defy any of you ....
I was a member of ACSM & NSPS for several years until the fiasco in the late 80's. I will not have anything to do with this organization again. Those powers that be at that time evidently had spent too much time with the Washington Bureaucrats and their way of operating rubbed off on them. They broke the organization by taking outlandish trips, building an overpriced new office building that was not needed among some of the things. Then they had the audacity to raise the dues over double and charge all existing members a $15 Registration Fee to continue their membership in order for them to try and cover all their spending. In the early 90's there was some articles in the ACSM Bulletin, Professional Surveyor with all the NSPS executive members patting themselves on the back at the ceremony regarding an item label as a great "Civil Engineering Feat" regarding a Colonial Boundary Survey, which should have been noted as a Land Surveying function, not Civil Engineering.
I defy any of you ....
Well, nobody will ever have anything to do with that organization again, so you're in good company.
The organization you mention is gone and will not be coming back.
This new organization is called NSPS, because the name is available now and appropriate. However, the way this NSPS will work is that each member state organization will have a voting presence. States that decline full membership will not have a voting presence. My understanding is that it was designed this way to address complaints about the now defunct ACSM/NSPS similar to yours. But, if your state doesn't join, then I'm sure you will still be able to use those old complaints.
In addition, if not enough states join, then this new NSPS will fold shortly. The national presence will then be through ASCE (an engineering society). I'm sure they will work just as diligently on behalf of surveyors interests over those of engineers as the engineer controlled state licensing boards do.
I know there were valid complaints about the old organization. Just sayin, might be time to bury the hatchet and work together to see if something good can be accomplished for the profession. Seems to me surveyors have lost a lot of ground over the past 20 years due to lack of representation.
I defy any of you ....
ASCE more or else ran ACSM. Thay still are trying to govern the surveying profession with their writings to govern surveying. These new names, Surveying Engineering, Geomatics are just some of the new ways to try to eliminate the surveying profession.
Really?!
You must be joking! $5 is too much? - ROFL! Can I have a free copy of some of your survey maps?
I defy any of you ....
"I will not have anything to do with this organization again."
Nor will I - even if the did still exist, but I certainly am will to contribute $40 to a new organization with new goals. It could turn out to be beneficial... I'm really tired of bitching about old things and am willing to move forward. I still don't like it that Nixon lied to me, but it hasn't done me much good to complain...
Really?!
Sure send me a $500 membership fee and I will send you some blank contract forms that any hack can get off the internet free. oh but be sure and send me a $10 check for shipping and processing (inflation you know)
I defy any of you ....
thats pretty much why I left, poor management, not run by/for surveyors and they were raising fees with no real return on investment. They talk about saving money on special insurance plans etc but I always shopped those and found their prices were not a deal either...hey, sorry all you new NSPS board members, I didnt mean to strike a nerve or anything!
