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(@surveyorjake)
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So a few years ago I was at a yard sale from an attorney who passed away. In a stack of papers was a packet of old NCGS data sheets. They were very old. I got them along with about 80 law books, some going back to 1829. The data sheets were for monuments in this area. I knew the area near one monument named Horse Gap. This monument does not show up in the current data base. After a pretty good hike to the top of a ridge I found it along with one of the references, a drill hole. Days like this keep the fire lit! I have several more to look for. Maybe my luck will continue!

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Posted : October 11, 2020 6:03 am
(@peter-ehlert)
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Beautiful.
good find, the Books too.

in my experience most Attorneys destroy all records ...?ÿ I recently recovered a ton of records, and had them scanned professionally, and logged into the database. He was the exception to the rule.
Most of what he retained were his recovery notes, similar to what we collect for an ALTA survey. Very Valuable!
In particular he made notes of the Occupation in relation to many structures that still exist many decades later... not "survey grade" but tight enough to be accepted by the Courts as proof positive. Specifically he recorded a bunch of info along the lines of a very valuable set of properties that are currently in litigation.
Gold!

 
Posted : October 11, 2020 6:46 am
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Isn't it great finding something that probably few have seen??ÿ I saw from your profile that you're in NC.?ÿ Have you ever been to "Ellicott's Rock", the point where Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina meet??ÿ It's on the east bank of the Chattooga River just a few miles north of where the movie "Deliverance" was filmed.?ÿ A nice hike up the river from the parking lot but it's nice and quiet.

Andy

 
Posted : October 11, 2020 7:28 am
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Posted by: @surveyorjake

This monument does not show up in the current data base.

If you're referring to the NGS Integrated Data Base, the only time a USGS monument makes it in there is if NGS or another entity happened to occupy it in a submitted project.?ÿ As far as I know the only USGS "database" is a bunch of index cards somewhere in Denver.

 
Posted : October 11, 2020 7:42 am
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Love this!

 
Posted : October 11, 2020 10:02 am
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@andy-bruner?ÿ This is on my bucket list!!

 
Posted : October 11, 2020 3:19 pm
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Very cool. You should go back with a GPS and observe for 4 hours of so and submit to NGS along with new pics, etc. They would be glad to know its is still there.?ÿ

 
Posted : October 12, 2020 2:42 am
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Posted by: @stlsurveyor

Very cool. You should go back with a GPS and observe for 4 hours of so and submit to NGS along with new pics, etc. They would be glad to know its is still there.?ÿ

No, it's USGS, not US C&GS or NGS. See Jim Frame's post.

It wasn't found in the NGS data base, so NGS never knew it was there. A 4-hour session and photos would let you add it?ÿ to the OPUS share list, but it takes a lot more effort to add it to the main data base (Bluebooking).

 
Posted : October 12, 2020 5:28 am
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@bill93 10-4

 
Posted : October 12, 2020 6:04 am