We drove on the order of an hour and a half at 70 mph across eastern Colorado and never had cell service the entire time.
@paden-cash?ÿ Hmm.?ÿ That's in Lake Michigan.?ÿ Although the strict definition of a?ÿroad?ÿis a?ÿthoroughfare, route, or way on land between two?ÿplaces?ÿthat has been?ÿpaved?ÿor otherwise improved to allow travel by foot or by some form of?ÿconveyance?ÿ(including a?ÿmotor vehicle, cart, bicycle, or horse), I'd assert the spirit of the question is a location on land, not water.?ÿ That location in Lake Michigan is easily accessible by a conveyance, namely, a boat.?ÿ In a way, any navigable body of water is a "road" in its entirety for the purposes of the question.?ÿ
[?ÿ .?ÿ .?ÿ .?ÿ ] the most remote place of all is the aptly named River of No Return Wilderness in central Idaho, the largest federal wilderness in the lower 48 states. [?ÿ .?ÿ .?ÿ .?ÿ ]
At 3,700 square miles it's certainly a candidate except for the fact it's littered with airstrips which make access easy using mechanized equipment. Commercial bush plane flights are available and it's becoming a carnival concerning group fly in rendezvous events and rafting/hunting/backing support flights.?ÿ?ÿ
@paden-cash?ÿ Hmm.?ÿ That's in Lake Michigan.?ÿ Although the strict definition of a?ÿroad?ÿis a?ÿthoroughfare, route, or way on land between two?ÿplaces?ÿthat has been?ÿpaved?ÿor otherwise improved to allow travel by foot or by some form of?ÿconveyance?ÿ(including a?ÿmotor vehicle, cart, bicycle, or horse), I'd assert the spirit of the question is a location on land, not water.?ÿ That location in Lake Michigan is easily accessible by a conveyance, namely, a boat.?ÿ In a way, any navigable body of water is a "road" in its entirety for the purposes of the question.?ÿ
Just stating facts for the sake of an argument.
Unlike a lot of other surveyors I do not possess a crystal ball that would give me any insight on what the spirit of the question or what it really meant.?ÿ I simply read it as the question: "Does anybody know of a point in the lower 48 that is, say, 30 miles from a road?"
The middle of Lake Michigan surely falls into that category.
And I believe the definition of a road has been well argued in legal circles.?ÿ And although there may be several various definitions; I'm pretty sure they are mainly upon dry land.?ÿ There is the legal term waterways?ÿdescribing bodies of water on which the public navigates.?ÿ But the original question didn't specify such, now did it??ÿ ?ÿ;)?ÿ
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The middle of Lake Michigan surely falls into that category.
The territorial limit of the country is said to be 200 miles out to sea from the high water mark.?ÿ So anywhere on any of our coasts more than 20 and up to 200 miles from shore would qualify by this standard.?ÿ
"Technically the middle of Lake Michigan...."
"Ackshully if you go more than twenty miles offshore...."
Y'all are starting to sound like a bunch of lawyers ?????ÿ
@paden-cash Yep, we're quibbling over what constitutes 20+ miles from a road.?ÿ I live on a sailboat on the West Coast and in 4 hours or can be so far enough offshore to still be within the lower 48 jurisdiction but easily 20+ miles from a "road."?ÿ That means all coastal areas fulfill the OP's stricture, which I suspect is not the intent of his question.
It's an interesting question.?ÿ I've done remote site surveying in Alaska where access by?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ helicopter or float plane was obviously more than 20 miles from any road.?ÿ But the question concerns the lower 48 and I'm suspecting an area slightly southwest of Yellowstone Park is the winner, based on an article I read but cannot cite because a search does not reveal it.?ÿ It concerned week long horse trips by biologists counting Elk populations outside the Park.
This story may be similar to the one you found.
Somewhere around 46. 78793, -69.52197 may work. The article was about US infrastructure, so it might be legal to use the Canadian border as a sideline--roads can't be out of bounds.
For what it's worth, not even close to an ascension of an unclimbed peak....
"When we arrive, and the GPS goes beep beep beep, it's a euphoria unlike any other," says Ryan. "It must be the same thing for mountain climbers that reach unclimbed summits......
You're more worried about dying and surviving the descent, and yeah it's up to each person on where they find their ultimate happiness I suppose....
To each their own.
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Oh yeah " GET OFF MY LAWN"
5 ponds wilderness area of the adk park in ny is pretty remote, but too much for google maps on my phone to check....seems like i remember 30 miles in one dir to a road...
No doubt the greatest distance from the nearest road if you exclude federally owned land.
