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Right now the land is row crop. Flat and wide open. The boundary is rectangular.

I turned in $5200. I'm sure there are those here that think that price was unprofessional and is ruining the profession.

The winner was 63% of my price.

This was for a government agency that you have to be prequalified to be on the list.


 
Posted : July 28, 2017 8:48 am
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"...never lost a penny on a job I didn't get." - Paden Cash: Professional surveyor, amateur satirist and bumbling social outcast.


 
Posted : July 28, 2017 8:53 am
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paden cash, post: 439030, member: 20 wrote: Paden Cash: Professional surveyor, amateur satirist and bumbling social outcast.

You left out: Bon Vivant, Raconteur, and Man About Town


 
Posted : July 28, 2017 9:02 am
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I would do it for $5,200 but I'm not doing private work. I just referred an old, good client to a friend, former coworker. I just don't have time...Grandson is taking up most of my free time and Momma wants me to pretty up the dining room.


 
Posted : July 28, 2017 9:04 am
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That sounds about right Tommy. We lost one a few years ago to an out-of-towner who did it for 17% of our fee. He produced one of the best plats I've ever seen...


 
Posted : July 28, 2017 9:46 am

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Jim in AZ, post: 439036, member: 249 wrote: That sounds about right Tommy. We lost one a few years ago to an out-of-towner who did it for 17% of our fee. He produced one of the best plats I've ever seen...

... boundary was exactly record......and elevations matched google earth perfect.


 
Posted : July 28, 2017 9:57 am
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toivo1037, post: 439038, member: 973 wrote: ... boundary was exactly record......and elevations matched google earth perfect.

Nope - not a single record v. measured dimension. This guy was on the ground (found his flagging on the monuments) and located 98 buildings, utility appurtenances, paint stripes, everything. I can only guess there was a kickback involved somehow. We found out from the owner that this surveyor was mandated by the California-based lender. When we told him that sounded somewhat unethical he said that he had stated that to the lender and was told that it was standard practice there. All I can say is that the survey was very, very good. We have surveyed several adjoining parcels since then, and verified almost all of that boundary. Can't figure out how he did it!


 
Posted : July 28, 2017 10:53 am
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Jim in AZ, post: 439044, member: 249 wrote: Nope - not a single record v. measured dimension. This guy was on the ground (found his flagging on the monuments) and located 98 buildings, utility appurtenances, paint stripes, everything. I can only guess there was a kickback involved somehow. We found out from the owner that this surveyor was mandated by the California-based lender. When we told him that sounded somewhat unethical he said that he had stated that to the lender and was told that it was standard practice there. All I can say is that the survey was very, very good. We have surveyed several adjoining parcels since then, and verified almost all of that boundary. Can't figure out how he did it!

Maybe he had no other work.


 
Posted : July 30, 2017 10:04 am
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Tommy Young, post: 439029, member: 703 wrote: The winner was 63% of my price.

Thank goodness I'm in construction surveying. I charge $5200 to stake out "Recreation Area" (clubhouse, pool, and "playground aka 'tot lot") no topo, no ALTA crap etc......And get paid promptly. I love it. 😉


 
Posted : July 30, 2017 10:16 am
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Chris Bouffard, post: 439304, member: 12313 wrote: Maybe he had no other work.

Maybe he/she already had the control / boundary / topo in the can. And it's OK to match the record perfectly if you created the record.

Note that: Field in crop + Ag GPS = topo in the can. In any case 10 acres at 100' spacing is 44 ground shots. That's not a big cost center of this thing.


 
Posted : July 30, 2017 10:17 am

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FL/GA PLS., post: 439309, member: 379 wrote: Thank goodness I'm in construction surveying. I charge $5200 to stake out "Recreation Area" (clubhouse, pool, and "playground aka 'tot lot") no topo, no ALTA crap etc......And get paid promptly. I love it. 😉

I love construction surveying! I started a survey division in a small engineering company that used to outsource all of their surveying. With a survey department in house we are now the company to go to in the area for all the major builders and business is booming. Our projects involve the title & topo, design, stakeout and final as-built of both single and multi family housing in a booming and expanding area. We make good money, always get paid promptly and the work is usually a cake walk. The construction end is where the money is at.


 
Posted : July 30, 2017 11:33 am
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[USER=12313]@Chris Bouffard[/USER]

Shssssssssssss. be quiet, you found the "Golden Egg". 😉


 
Posted : July 30, 2017 11:37 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 439327, member: 379 wrote: [USER=12313]@Chris Bouffard[/USER]

Shssssssssssss. be quiet, you found the "Golden Egg". 😉

I truly did! I even get a Willie Wanka bar every 2 weeks! LOL! Seriously, I am very much enjoying it. I love what I do.


 
Posted : July 30, 2017 12:47 pm
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Tommy Young, post: 439029, member: 703 wrote: Right now the land is row crop. Flat and wide open. The boundary is rectangular.

I turned in $5200. I'm sure there are those here that think that price was unprofessional and is ruining the profession.

The winner was 63% of my price.

This was for a government agency that you have to be prequalified to be on the list.

Q: Was your price determined by time spent or just because it was an ALTA for a Government Agency? For me, a 10 acre topo/ALTA would take less than a couple hours. So at $3,200 per, that's not a bad hourly rate.

Around here, some guys hear the word ALTA and immediately double or triple the price. Not me. I figure how how much I think they're worth, and that's my fee. And yes, I do a bunch of them. And yes, I make a VERY good living too.

Sounds to me like you just priced yourself out of the job. It happens.


 
Posted : July 31, 2017 6:26 pm
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Michael White, post: 439547, member: 12162 wrote: For me, a 10 acre topo/ALTA would take less than a couple hours

The field topo part, I suppose maybe. I would think that the boundary, mapping, resolution would come to a great deal more.


 
Posted : July 31, 2017 6:29 pm

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How I long for your wide open spaces. Here, a quarter acre site plan is easily a day in the field. A vacant 10 acres, two days just in field work for boundary and topo.

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Posted : July 31, 2017 8:58 pm
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Give me a one-acre tract in the corner of an aliquot part and days can be invested in determining the boundary. It's not nearly so simple as some people seem to believe.

This is exceptionally true when playing with a government lot with a double whammy such as the one I have been playing with recently. The east boundary of the lot is along a 50-mile stretch of (native American tribal) boundary. The south boundary of the lot is the result of being in the northernmost part of a section closing against the north side of a township. The west section line is a county line.


 
Posted : August 1, 2017 1:42 am
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Michael White, post: 439547, member: 12162 wrote: Q: Was your price determined by time spent or just because it was an ALTA for a Government Agency? For me, a 10 acre topo/ALTA would take less than a couple hours. So at $3,200 per, that's not a bad hourly rate.

Around here, some guys hear the word ALTA and immediately double or triple the price. Not me. I figure how how much I think they're worth, and that's my fee. And yes, I do a bunch of them. And yes, I make a VERY good living too.

Sounds to me like you just priced yourself out of the job. It happens.

If you can get this site done in less than 2 hours of field work, you'll make a lot more money putting on seminars teaching the rest of us how to work that fast.

I just did the exact same thing on the 10 acres south of this, and it is a known fact that the north two corners on this new tract are not there. It is also a known fact that there are no utilities on this site, but the nearest utilities will have to be surveyed in.

Also, the 10 acres to the south of this, in December the ALTA with topo went for $6500.


 
Posted : August 1, 2017 9:58 am
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Tommy Young, post: 439626, member: 703 wrote: If you can get this site done in less than 2 hours of field work, you'll make a lot more money putting on seminars teaching the rest of us how to work that fast.

Amen. Sign me up!


 
Posted : August 1, 2017 10:22 am
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where is TDD?

this ain't rocket surgery


 
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