Peter Ehlert, post: 362215, member: 60 wrote: Dave: does your new W10 laptop have "auto update" set to on by default?
I haven't looked at that but probably the answer is yes, okay almost certainly the answer is yes.
At some point it will get to be an advantage to have CAD computers on dedicated systems not connected to the internet. It was going that way in the early 1990s but Autodesk and Microsoft managed to head it off at the pass.
Dave Karoly, post: 362220, member: 94 wrote: I haven't looked at that but probably the answer is yes, okay almost certainly the answer is yes.
At some point it will get to be an advantage to have CAD computers on dedicated systems not connected to the internet. It was going that way in the early 1990s but Autodesk and Microsoft managed to head it off at the pass.
From my experience, there just might be something to consider before taking computers completely off line now. From what I've seen, Windows will now complain that it is not authorized if it can not reach out and touch the Microslop servers. After a period of time, 30 days if memory serves, Windows may be somewhat crippled by design (reduced functionality for having an "illegal' product).
If one has Microslop Office on the computer, I believe it has the same need to reach out and touch Microslop and might have diminished capacity after a period of time as well.
I am pretty sure there are other programs that have the need to reach out to their servers to authenticate as well. What will be the effect of not being able to reach the servers?
John, post: 362226, member: 791 wrote: From my experience, there just might be something to consider before taking computers completely off line now. From what I've seen, Windows will now complain that it is not authorized if it can not reach out and touch the Microslop servers. After a period of time, 30 days if memory serves, Windows may be somewhat crippled by design (reduced functionality for having an "illegal' product).
If one has Microslop Office on the computer, I believe it has the same need to reach out and touch Microslop and might have diminished capacity after a period of time as well.
I am pretty sure there are other programs that have the need to reach out to their servers to authenticate as well. What will be the effect of not being able to reach the servers?
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Take a look at this link - 30 ways Windows calls home
http://www.howtogeek.com/224616/30-ways-windows-10-phones-home/
Dave Karoly, post: 362220, member: 94 wrote: At some point it will get to be an advantage to have CAD computers on dedicated systems not connected to the internet.
I have already done that. It was quick and painless. Zero hardware investment. Time investment is Lass than a typical "automatic update" and reboots.
Instructions on request.
John, post: 362226, member: 791 wrote: From my experience, there just might be something to consider before taking computers completely off line now. From what I've seen, Windows will now complain that it is not authorized if it can not reach out and touch the Microslop servers. After a period of time, 30 days if memory serves, Windows may be somewhat crippled by design (reduced functionality for having an "illegal' product).
If one has Microslop Office on the computer, I believe it has the same need to reach out and touch Microslop and might have diminished capacity after a period of time as well.
I am pretty sure there are other programs that have the need to reach out to their servers to authenticate as well. What will be the effect of not being able to reach the servers?
Yes, I am aware of that. We had one of our laptops not connect to the internet for one reason or another for over a month and I.T. had to get it going again. Not good. Often I don't need to connect my laptop, e-mail comes to my phone when I'm on the road and I use my iPad for personal stuff. I never do personal stuff on my work laptop, that's for work only. It really doesn't need to connect, I just use it for backing up the day's data (transferred onto a USB flash drive from the TSC2 then onto the computer from the flash drive). Sometimes I process data in the evening but that doesn't require a connection either. Most of the time the wifi is turned off. I have a patch cable on my desk in the office to connect it to the servers so I can transfer the week's data off onto the servers.
Peter Ehlert, post: 362230, member: 60 wrote: I have already done that. It was quick and painless. Zero hardware investment. Time investment is Lass than a typical "automatic update" and reboots.
Instructions on request.
If I was in private business, that is what I would do at this point. Computers are so cheap. Just run one on Windows XP, load my Surveying software on there, no security, no wifi, no connection, no nothing. Nothing would slow it down except for me.
Use a phone or other device for internet stuff, e-mail and the like.
There is some advantage to having a computer connected to the internet, mostly easier to type, and iOS doesn't do Java which I need for my travel claim software, an on-line connection.
Even your car is storing stuff now, maybe not uploading it just yet but close. The Sac DA got a conviction on an insurance scam because the perpetrator had possession of the last key to start the car before the fire which was stored in the computer (the car was falsely reported stolen). Every time you start your car there is a record; it stores on-going emissions data. Can't get the vehicle smogged without driving it enough to have a sufficient record of emissions.
I write slow, I missed a few comments.
I cloned my Windows onto another drive, deleted the original about a year ago. I use Linux for 99%, when I need Acad I fireup my other drive (on the Same Computer) with all the legal software. Windows is confused. Something changed and it is afraid, very afraid. It now complains, it warns me that "illegal software is dangerous", claims it is "not genuine", etc. BS, it is genuine. Updates are 99% "phone home", the rest is to patch poorly written code... the kind that exposes you to bad guys IF you are connected to the internet.
The danger is in Connecting Windows to the Internet.
I've had my Win7Pro64 setup since Saturday night and after turning off auto updates on everything there has not been another window about Win10 to popup.
Fingers crossed..........
Wendell, post: 362141, member: 1 wrote: Yep, I'm not a fan of Avast (anymore).
When trying to remove pests from a computer, I rely pretty heavily on these guys, because they are awesome:
I do like Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, however it rarely finds anything even when the two above do. There is another tool from Malwarebytes that most folks aren't aware of, and I install it whenever anyone asks for help:
- https://www.malwarebytes.org/antiexploit/
Note: I did just notice that it's no longer free.
Just took the time to try a out adwcleaner. Caught some "stuff". Thank you, hopefully my computer is getting closer to being cleaner now.