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This is in Acad 2013. This wasn't happening last week, and I don't know what changed. I have a small drawing file with a few Carlson points and lines I'm trying to insert into a main drawing. I've made sure that both files are set to "unitless" in the following variables:

INSUNITS = 0
INSUNITSDEFSOURCE = 0
INSUNITSDEFTARGET = 0

I've run SCALELISTEDIT on both files and reset them to "metric and imperial scales", and saved both files.

The base points in both drawings are 0,0,0. Both files are in the WCS.

I've run audit on both files. I've run purge in the main drawing to make sure it doesn't already contain a definition of the small drawing. I've rebooted the PC and restarted acad.

When I insert the small drawing into the main drawing, the points come in at the correct coordinates. But the lines connecting them and the point block attributes are scaled up by 39.3700787400 and are far away. It sounds like an international feet vs. meters thing, so I must be overlooking a setting.

It's a Monday!

Thanks for any input.

 
Posted : January 21, 2013 11:17 am
 vern
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The default values for all three of those settings is 2.

 
Posted : January 21, 2013 11:21 am
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> The default values for all three of those settings is 2.

Tried that too, made no difference.

 
Posted : January 21, 2013 11:26 am
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Have you tried to use copybase and paste the linework into the other drawing?

 
Posted : January 21, 2013 11:56 am
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Simplest Solution Is

Break the small drawing into a point.dwg and a line.dwg. Bring each in as an unexploded block. If the points are in the right place, explode it. If the lines are not in the right place scale it about 0,0. That should work. If it is 3D linework, scale carefully.

The other choice is to use "clipboard" "copy", try to bring in both "paste to original coordinates". If that does not work try the points and lines separately.

Either way you still have to update your .crd file from the .dwg.

Since it is a small drawing, you could just bring in the points and redraw the lines.

You weren't clear, is your linework itself scaled or juct in the wrong place, I assumed it was scaled.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : January 21, 2013 11:58 am
 vern
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options, user preferences,

 
Posted : January 21, 2013 12:11 pm
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Paul: Yes, the linework is scaled also. The points are correct but their attrubutes are scaled huge and far away.

Vern: Your screen capture matches mine for both dwgs.

VA: Copybase and Paste worked. Thank you!

 
Posted : January 21, 2013 12:52 pm
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Some people have reported issues with newer drawings in ACad because the Geographic Location data has been set incorrectly. This link may be helpful.

 
Posted : January 21, 2013 9:21 pm