I've been crippling along with Eagle Point 2000 (main advantage - I own a copy, along with AutoCAD 2000), but now after an update to Windows 7 Pro, I'm having trouble getting Eagle Point going. I did get AutoCAD running on the W7 machine, which it does lots faster than it ever thought it would.
A.K. (former employee and CAD jockey) says I should just make the switch, but I thought I'd ask you guys first:
I'm a land surveyor, so except for a few quirks of Eagle Point, it still works well on an XP. AutoCAD 2000 is all I think I need, I don't do point cloud stuff, and really, most of my surveys are in 2D. Is there any way to get Eagle Point 2000 running on my W7 machine?
If not, and this old dog has to learn a lot of new tricks, what's the best and cheapest way to get hold of Carlson? I don't really need a CAD engine if it can talk to AutoCAD 2000. I understand that software companies now want yearly access into my knicker$, since they need money.
Thanks for the help.
Carlson does perpetual license and not those subscription like Autodesk. Not sure how to get Eagle Point running on Windows 7 but as a Carlson User who bought the intellicad version. It's cheap and does work although using intellicad to draft initially gets a bit of getting used to.
I will recommend to make the switch as Carlson have cut down my drafting time tremendously with their automated functions. Once you get used to it, it is quite useful.
Cheers
can't speak to the hardware question. i learned on R12. worked a very limited amount in eagle point. learned and worked a bunch in MS/Geopak for several years. climbed on every R/LDD/C3D update until 2012. been on carlson since.
carlson is a one-time expense per machine, unless you're addicted to annual updates. (and, actually, you technically get two seats if you buy the software).
but for my money and time, carlson is- by far- the most intuitive, easiest to use software for surveyors. which is to say: it is not just civil software with a few bones thrown in for surveying's sake, like what autodesk products have increasingly felt like for the past 10 years. of course, i could be entirely wrong and C3D is the cat's arse, but they lost me with all the bells and whistles and superfluous features that made my job anything but easier. now, if i'd had time to go through training seminars each time C3D updated, i may well be sitting here telling you something different, but that's more to my point: switching to carlson required almost zero uptake- almost as if a surveyor, speaking in surveyingese, designed drafting software.
coupled with the fact that an install of carlson (with autoCAD embedded) runs maybe a little more than half of what a seat of C3D runs (last time i bought it), well... i'm sounding like a company man i reckon. (which i assure you i'm not.)
flyin solo, post: 380930, member: 8089 wrote: (and, actually, you technically get two seats if you buy the software).
What's this you say?
How do I verify this and get it up and running?
RADAR, post: 380946, member: 413 wrote: What's this you say?
How do I verify this and get it up and running?
well, if you install it on any machine you'll notice there's an option for registering something along the lines of "laptop/home use". use this information however you see fit.
wfwenzel, post: 380915, member: 7180 wrote: I've been crippling along with Eagle Point 2000 (main advantage - I own a copy, along with AutoCAD 2000), but now after an update to Windows 7 Pro, I'm having trouble getting Eagle Point going. I did get AutoCAD running on the W7 machine, which it does lots faster than it ever thought it would.
A.K. (former employee and CAD jockey) says I should just make the switch, but I thought I'd ask you guys first:
I'm a land surveyor, so except for a few quirks of Eagle Point, it still works well on an XP. AutoCAD 2000 is all I think I need, I don't do point cloud stuff, and really, most of my surveys are in 2D. Is there any way to get Eagle Point 2000 running on my W7 machine?
If not, and this old dog has to learn a lot of new tricks, what's the best and cheapest way to get hold of Carlson? I don't really need a CAD engine if it can talk to AutoCAD 2000. I understand that software companies now want yearly access into my knicker$, since they need money.
Thanks for the help.
If you go Carlson, buy the AutoCAD OEM engine. Until this week, I've never had an issue with the Survey module and it was in receiving an alignment from an engineer. It wouldn't come through and they had to make it a polyline.
Contact Carlson,
Let them know you own? AutoCAD 2000. It is my understanding that Carlson Survey operates on AutoCADs older than the current Carlson version. If so you could buy stand along Carlson Survey with built in IntelliCAD and run the menus in your AutoCAD. Carlson Survey with AutoCAD is more exactly AutoCAD Lite, which is in essence AutoCAD 2000. I first purchased Autodesk Field Survey which was Carlson Survey running in AutoCAD 2000 or AutoCAD Lite. Because I bought my version from Carlson as a retailer my support was from Carlson. Autodesk soon found that it's other dealers could not provide adequate support and AutoDesk stopped the cross licensing with Carlson. Because of what clients and associates were using I upgraded to Carlson Survey 2004 and still use it today.
Paul in PA
Go for it, you know you probably have to make the jump at some point and I don't think you will regret it. Carlson is a good choice. I would go with the embedded OEM version.
Paul in PA, post: 380966, member: 236 wrote: It is my understanding that Carlson Survey operates on AutoCADs older than the current Carlson version
I don't think the current one goes back further than 2004 but I am open to correction on this.
Totalsurv, post: 380967, member: 8202 wrote: Go for it, you know you probably have to make the jump at some point and I don't think you will regret it. Carlson is a good choice. I would go with the embedded OEM version.
I don't think the current one goes back further than 2004 but I am open to correction on this.
Yeah. I skipped an upgrade from 12 to 15 and the discount was negligible.
Carlson Survey 2016 with Embedded AutoCAD runs ACAD 2013. I believe 2013 was the year AutoCAD went all BIM and changed the data base program in strange ways. It all got VERY complicated.
Yes, each license allows two downloads of Carlson, just like you could do in AutoCAD before they goy so uppity. You can load it on your office and home computer legally. You are just asked not to use the 2 seats at the same time.
The transition to Carlson is pretty easy. You just have to learn what they call things and where they hide them. Every tool you need is there. It's a rock solid survey program, but it is NOT designed to do heavy duty engineering stuff. They have a separate package to do that.
Look, I am a 68 year old, Jabba The Hutt looking, Mississippi Redneck and I not only figured it out, I am now about to venture out into the Training end of Carlson Survey. The company that I work for will offer on site training, set up of your field codes and Field to Finish and also configure your computer to best utilize the software. We will either train you how to do all of this OR we will come on site and do it for you and then show you how to use it.
You will be surprised at the features and power in the newer versions. Text is finally manageable and all editing functions are something to behold. Carlson is full of useable tools, not bells, whistles and switches that really do nothing like a certain nationally known software firm that we all used to know and loved to use.
My version is probably Carlson's first version and it still does all the bells and whistles I'll ever need.
Was not that far of a leap as first thought, Printed out the manual and crunch session until the first drawing printed.
When I switched firms a few moths ago I had to make the jump from LDD3 to carlson 16. Took me a month to get back to the same level of production, now I could never go back.
Take the plunge, you won't regret it.
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For those of you moving from LDD or similar products, the attached pdf file may help you. It was written for earlier versions (2010-2012) but the basics are still the same
Thanks cptdent, I've never used LDT but the PDF still looks like there may be a nugget or two in there.
