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I have had this old Geodimeter Model 6 for years and it is just cool to look at. Heaviest freakin thing ever. I am trying to get myself psych'ed up to model it in 3D. I think I am going to take it home and have it sitting there, so, during football I may model it. The old stuff is sooo easy, flat panels and 90° angles.

That is an old Wild T1 for perspective. Yes the first tripod mount EDM was BIG! This instrument was 1965, if there was something before that do tell.

I am not going to model all of the accessory boxes that actually make it work though. That would be crazy. I am thinking I added that tribrach to display it as it looks Sokkia to me, so the digital model will have the GDF-22 that all the other models have


 
Posted : November 1, 2013 1:47 pm
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Never seen one. Cool. I learn something new every day!

The first electronic measuring device I ever saw was up on Buffalo Peaks in Chaffee County, Colorado; late summer '64. The Homestake Water project was under construction heading for South Park. My father was field engineer on the project in charge of the surveying.

I was truly amazed at these high-tech wonders:

They were tripod mounted and pointed at each other and it took a long time to get everything cooking. I was experiencing the "future-things-to-come" in real time!


 
Posted : November 1, 2013 7:54 pm
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That's even easier to model, LOL


 
Posted : November 1, 2013 11:24 pm
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3d printer build a prosthetic hand

What a cool story.
Maybe a sinter could be used to build some of the parts that need to be little more ruggedized like finger tips or knuckles.
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Posted : November 2, 2013 2:33 pm
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That is so very cool! Very glad the design er made it open source as there would have been more than a few trial and error items that would have needed to be done. It appears to have been made by extrusion, so, yes I agree with you a sinter would be better. Stuff that I want a lot of flex in I print at a 0.8 to 1.5 mm thickness. If I want something solid, as little as 3 mm thickness is amazingly strong and 4 mm is solid. The gear shift knobs I make are a combination of 3 and 4 mm and I was printing in sinter to mock up for a steel print. They are so strong in plastic, I am not even considering steel anymore. The few of you that have seen one know what I mean.


 
Posted : November 2, 2013 3:18 pm

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Spent some time on it today



 
Posted : November 2, 2013 7:18 pm
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OK, I forgot how time consuming these could be. I am done for a while as the desire has definitely subsided and I have lots of surveying issues facing me next week. It is way more complicated than I thought at first blush too. It will look cool done.



Scope is done and there really isn't that much left to do. I did a quick size comparison just for fun. It would look more startling if the old school was a T1 as they are much smaller of course


 
Posted : November 3, 2013 9:22 pm
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NICE....

Can't be any harder than beating the Buc's....:snarky:
Is it?
😉


 
Posted : November 3, 2013 9:30 pm
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Spot me 21... 😛


 
Posted : November 3, 2013 9:31 pm
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LOL

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Posted : November 4, 2013 6:08 pm

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The after MNF posting. Worked on the back face, not done....


I did not want to build real VU meters so they look a little wonky


 
Posted : November 7, 2013 1:37 pm
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Finishing a Model 6 model

I have the entire upper portion done. I just need to finish the area around the tribrach support. I have always found it interesting that as early as this is it is setup for a standard tribrach. Those things are older than I give them credit for. Of course if I was Geodimeter and a laser scientist in the early '80's I would have used someone's tribrach too. Did not spend much time on it as I had a couple of scan projects to stitch together and then rotate and translate.



Can you tell I figured out how to do more realistic screen shots? The two wire ends on the bottom photo connect on the real machine. I haven't figured out how to connect them and still have the digital model maintain motion. The scope spins without hitting anything, which is always a good sign that I didn't blow something. The coolest thing about the Model 6 is you look in the little ocular at the SE corner of the last picture and you can see down the main scope.


 
Posted : November 11, 2013 9:38 am
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Almost done

A little left to do for the horizontal crawl and the base support. Intense amount of detail. Learned a few new techniques though. I want to finish as I have a 1/24th scale all printed model car kit sitting in the wings. All done from laser scan. Basically finish the frame I did last year with all of the panels and other parts.



These are such cool instruments and this stupid project is catching just that. I am very happy with it and at the same time sick of seeing it.


 
Posted : November 14, 2013 10:44 am
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Done, done, done!

My pointless project has been completed and looks outstanding, even if I say so myself.:-P







I will probably make a Christmas ornament out of it just because I can.


 
Posted : November 17, 2013 7:17 pm
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Done, done, done!

That's a sickeningly realistic model. I haven't been following your efforts, so my questions may already have been answered, but here goes anyway:

What hardware and software are you using to create the digital model? What hardware and software are you using to print the 3D recreation?

Thanks!


 
Posted : November 17, 2013 11:47 pm

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Instrument modeling

Jim, I use a combination of a lot of skills developed over the years. I am a motorhead and used to have a lot of cars that I made go faster and better. To that end I rebuilt my own engines and blueprinted and balanced them. I still have those tools. Vernier calipers, micrometers, depth gauges and measuring rods are very handy. A base laser scan is the most handy, but, if you are using survey grade scanners the level of detail is not there and you have to supplement. I have used both a time of flight and a phased base for a base and to help with making parametric shapes from odd things. If it is square'ish, I will use mic's.

This started out as taking BIM skills to the next level, so, yes scanning is involved. Although I have done them without any scanning, the HDS 6200 is a great example of this, as it is just a rectangle. I do not have access to a metrological laser scanner just three survey grade ones. The first one I did was the T3 and was an exercise to achieve some specific skills I was looking for, as were most of the others. This Model 6 was just because I wanted it for some reason. I just carried the anvil from my car back to the office and my desire for it is a little less every time I pick it up.

As far as software, I use Cyclone, Netfabb, Meshlab, Autodesk Inventor, 3DS Max, AutoCad, TerraModel and InStep. I have used RapidForm and ZW3D for some of the parametric modeling, but, mainly I stay in Cyclone and Inventor. I am focusing on CNC code now as I want to make some full size car accessories with my CNC. I needed this precise modeling to be able to make the shapes for CNC.

This is all five together ...
Left to right
* Geodimeter 600 series robotic
* Wild T3 (late 50's to early 70's)
* Geodimeter Model 6 (1964 and 1965)
* Leica C10 laser scanner
* Leica 6200 laser scanner

As far as printers, I have priced most of them and I find Shapeways the cheapest with good service, so, I use them exclusively right now. I have printed in detail plastic and laser sinter as will as stainless steel and gold plated brass. I want to print in Chocolate just for fun and I am making my wife some jewelery for Christmas in printed gold plate. I haven't come up with Christmas survey women's jewelery that I actually like, so, none of it is surveying based

Norm


 
Posted : November 18, 2013 10:13 am
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I made the changes to make a 1/6th scale printable and placed it on Shapeways. Much to my surprise it is cheaper than both scanners at the same scale http://shpws.me/pSef


 
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I let all of the instrument models render unattended for 2.5 hours with all settings maxed out. Kind of cool picture. The forum does shrink it though
http://www.imgtree.net/&apos ;">


 
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Would it be possible to get that Geodimeter 600 series 3d printed?? I'd love to have one in my office.

Oh, wait There it is!

https://www.shapeways.com/product/JYK4RHB9U/geodimeter-600-1-4th-scale?optionId=43036816


 
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Norm Larson, post: 232616, member: 7899 wrote: I use a combination of a lot of skills developed over the years. I am a motorhead and used to have a lot of cars that I made go faster and better. To that end I rebuilt my own engines and blueprinted and balanced them. I still have those tools. Vernier calipers, micrometers, depth gauges and measuring rods are very handy

Cripes, youƒ??re like a modern day Smokey Yunick on steroids. 😉


 
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