Select Points by Polyline. That is, every point that is used to define that polyline. So that I can resize those points just a bit larger, so all the final boundary points are larger.
Is that very hard?
Thanks!
Nate
I know it's not the fix you're looking for, but using the point group manager would make these points larger in a jiffy. If you use a point number range for your boundary point calcs it really does speed things up on point attribute size changes.
That's akin to the terramodel ability to select by line.
Ken, then I'd have redundant point numbers. In the field books, I have stuff written. Like additional notes about point numbers.....
I'd druther keep it all on the same system.
N
ANOTHER good reason to be able to do this, is you could then copy all the points, and their corresponding polyline, over to the side, and produce a nice worksheet, with none of the other points, so you could make stake sheets. thus, you have the final bdy, and points, all ready for the field, in one fast move. You could even change the layer for those points, and call it final pnts, then freeze the others. Non cluttered worksheet.
N
Guess I don't follow all the way. Hoping Ladd from Carlson jumps on here, because I bet it can get pretty darn close to what you want. I create worksheets with F2F for field points and lines, and calc pnts on a separate layer.
Ken, what I want is to be able to combine calc pts and existing pnts. As I see fit. Using another coord number, for an existing point.... goes against what .....I'm used to....
Well, all you would have to do is when you set up your drawing, change the text size during draw/locate, and only those boundary points would be a bit bigger or smaller. It will do it if you want it to, but it's a bit more manual than you want.
Kris, I shoot all kinds of stuff. Fence corners, building corners, RTK gps multiple shots on monuments, and send the non used shots to another layer. The ones I use, need resized.
I'm making genuine, helpful, sincere suggestions. If Carlson wants to USE my ideas, then their product will be better. What better way to learn, than by feedback, from your users?
N
Nate,
I like the point group manager idea that Ken proposed as well. Managing the points would be fairly easy. To include calc'ed and collected points to the point group is fairly easy. If I can do it, a monkey can. You can add points to a group by number, selection, description, etc... I still hate the way Carlson handles points and their attributes, but I digress.
Nate,
I dont use Carlson to draw, I used Civil 3D, in Civil you can make point groups and each group can be a different size, does Carlson have point groups? I can have point groups just show elevation, or description, not showing point numbers helps when you have alot of points in an area, makes the drawing cleaner.
I'm sure that I am missing something here, especially moving the coordinate points over to the side to work with them, BUT, I do believe that Ken has you headed in the right direction in recommending Point Groups. I think that will do what you are looking for.
As far as adding additional info to the point descriptors so you will have that data on the screen, use the forward slash "/" option to add the additional data codes. That will put the data on your screen using both Field To Finish and/or Point Groups.
You can set up the Point Groups as "FIELD" and as "CALC" and bring in each separately and set to whatever text/symbol height that you desire. No need to renumber any points.
Steven Meadows, post: 328319, member: 7459 wrote: Nate,
I like the point group manager idea that Ken proposed as well. Managing the points would be fairly easy. To include calc'ed and collected points to the point group is fairly easy. If I can do it, a monkey can. You can add points to a group by number, selection, description, etc... I still hate the way Carlson handles points and their attributes, but I digress.
Get thatcadsgirl's book on Carlson points. She really does a good job on explaining the in's and out's of Carlson points. That will be some of the best money that you will ever spend.
All these things will work.
But, what inevitably happens to me, is some point I need, in the field, has too much clutter, or I MISS one that needs to be enlarged, and it takes me a while in the field to decipher what the coord is.
That is, I miss one. It'd be handy to select by poly. I don't know how hard that would be. But it would make some things easier.
N
My problem with the handling the points is that they use 4 separate layers. I like how LDD used one layer and you could modify the attributes by layer as opposed to turning off and on the layers to modify the attributes. I think we have the book cptdent mentioned, but my schedule is overbooked as it is.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 328267, member: 291 wrote: Select Points by Polyline. That is, every point that is used to define that polyline. So that I can resize those points just a bit larger, so all the final boundary points are larger.
Is that very hard?
I believe you already have this functionality. As others have suggested, this can be accomplished through the use of a Point Group (via Points -- Point Group Manager):
During a command such as Resize Point Attributes, you'll see an option to use/specify a Point Group:
Alternatively, another course of action would be to use the capabilities of Field-to-Finish to automatically draw the Boundary code(s) with a slightly larger point scaler than other points in the drawing. You could also configure the codes within Draw Field-to-Finish to automatically create various Point Groups.
Also, coming with Carlson 2016 is a new "Levels" functionality described to me by Executive VP of Programming Dave Carlson as follows:
[INDENT=1]The Level Manager is a TerraModel-like feature where you can assign an additional name to entities and then freeze/thaw using this name. For example, you could have 2 roads named A and B with centerlines drawn on layer "CL". Since they have the same layer name, you can't use the layer name as a way to isolate a road. You could assign a level name of "A" to one centerline and "B" to the other. Then if you want to isolate road "A", then you can use it's level name.[/INDENT]
These commands will be found under the View menu. I've not looked at how to manipulate entities within the AutoCAD environment but with IntelliCAD, you can use the FILter option to expose the Levels functionality:
I hope this information helps.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 328286, member: 291 wrote: ANOTHER good reason to be able to do this, is you could then copy all the points, and their corresponding polyline, over to the side
You should try using point groups first. However, if you must copy points, at least copy them to a new empty drawing using COPYCLIP in the current drawing and PASTEORIG in the target drawing. That way at least they will have the same coordinates.
Steven Meadows, post: 328328, member: 7459 wrote: My problem with the handling the points is that they use 4 separate layers. I like how LDD used one layer and you could modify the attributes by layer as opposed to turning off and on the layers to modify the attributes. I think we have the book cptdent mentioned, but my schedule is overbooked as it is.
Buy the book. Put it on the desk. Wait for osmosis?? :whistle: Making time for training ALWAYS makes more money. B-)
OK, under POINT DEFAULTS make sure that on the right, midway down, SEPARATE LAYERS is set to NONE.
THEN, go to DRAW/LOCATE POINTS, at the bottom left of the window that says LAYER NAME, there's a SELECT radio button to the right of the window. Click on it and select the ONE layer that you want your points to be on.
I think that will give you what you are looking for.
Double click on the attributes to modify them.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 328318, member: 291 wrote: Kris, I shoot all kinds of stuff. Fence corners, building corners, RTK gps multiple shots on monuments, and send the non used shots to another layer. The ones I use, need resized.
I'm making genuine, helpful, sincere suggestions. If Carlson wants to USE my ideas, then their product will be better. What better way to learn, than by feedback, from your users?
N
The isolate the layer that you want with those points, and rescale the drawing and it will only affect those points.