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I do not have, nor have I ever seen, a Carlson data collector. I will probably be working with a company who uses Carlson data collector (not sure what software) with Leica receivers. I want to get the raw GPS vector components (DX, DY, DZ) and a correlation matrix or something similar to do adjustments for multiple occupations of points.

So I asked a friend who is knowledgeable about Carlson office software, and he sent me a link to the manual for SurvCE, and it had the following:

So, I wonder what that data looks like in the data collector file? Is it ascii? Can it be imported to Star*Net? Are there other possibilities than SurvCE that they might have and that might be different? I asked my client to ask them exactly what hardware/software they are using, but I have not yet heard back.


 
Posted : October 24, 2017 2:50 pm
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John,

It (Carlson Surve-CE) appears to be receiver dependent in that regard (and they are ASCII files).

When attached to a X90+

 GPS,PN0819105,LA40.363540912942,LN-111.320234072864,EL2797.945311,--2 IN AC ALLIANCE 4-5398
--GS,PN0819105,N 173298.6553,E 54278.0726,EL9223.3445,--2 IN AC ALLIANCE 4-5398
G0,2016/08/19 19:58:55,(Average) - Base ID read at rover: 0015
G1,BP15,PN0819105,DX-1101.40445,DY709.97171,DZ446.01219
G2,VX0.00001617,VY0.00005872,VZ0.00003984
G3,XY0.00001378,XZ-0.00000536,YZ-0.00002576
--GT,PN0819105,SW1910,ST503733000,EW1910,ET503952000
--Valid Readings: 180 of 180
--Fixed Readings: 180 of 180
--Nor Min: 173298.6214 Max: 173298.6897
--Eas Min: 54278.0469 Max: 54278.0885
--Elv Min: 9223.2881 Max: 9223.4031
--Nor Avg: 173298.6553 SD: 0.0123
--Eas Avg: 54278.0726 SD: 0.0065
--Elv Avg: 9223.3445 SD: 0.0259
--NRMS Avg: 0.0160 SD: 0.0003 Min: 0.0155 Max: 0.0173
--ERMS Avg: 0.0116 SD: 0.0002 Min: 0.0113 Max: 0.0125
--HSIG Avg: 0.0198 SD: 0.0003 Min: 0.0193 Max: 0.0214
--VSIG Avg: 0.0291 SD: 0.0004 Min: 0.0286 Max: 0.0313
--HDOP Avg: 0.7067 Min: 0.7060 Max: 0.7075
--VDOP Avg: 1.2057 Min: 1.2006 Max: 1.2100
--PDOP Avg: 1.3975 Min: 1.3928 Max: 1.4017
--Number of Satellites Avg: 17 Min: 17 Max: 17
--DT08-19-2016
--TM13:59:18

It does.

When attached to an i80

 GPS,PN0820100,LA40.361653740882,LN-111.332263821040,EL3001.825682,--POSS STONE MOUND
--GS,PN0820100,N 507749.8021,E 13623.1976,EL9892.0957,--POSS STONE MOUND
--GT,PN0820100,SW1963,ST59251000,EW1963,ET59455000
--Valid Readings: 193 of 193
--Fixed Readings: 193 of 193
--Nor Min: 507749.7835 Max: 507749.8238
--Eas Min: 13623.1786 Max: 13623.2185
--Elv Min: 9892.0516 Max: 9892.1420
--Nor Avg: 507749.8021 SD: 0.0060
--Eas Avg: 13623.1976 SD: 0.0087
--Elv Avg: 9892.0957 SD: 0.0151
--NRMS Avg: 0.0256 SD: 0.0015 Min: 0.0233 Max: 0.0286
--ERMS Avg: 0.0253 SD: 0.0016 Min: 0.0229 Max: 0.0285
--HSDV Avg: 0.0360 SD: 0.0022 Min: 0.0327 Max: 0.0404
--VSDV Avg: 0.0712 SD: 0.0036 Min: 0.0659 Max: 0.0784
--HDOP Avg: 0.6881 Min: 0.6844 Max: 0.6918
--VDOP Avg: 1.1737 Min: 1.1728 Max: 1.1742
--PDOP Avg: 1.3605 Min: 1.3579 Max: 1.3629
--Number of Satellites Avg: 17 Min: 17 Max: 17
--DT01-15-2015
--TM08:26:08

It does not.

"They" are supposedly working on that!

Loyal


 
Posted : October 24, 2017 3:44 pm
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Thanks, Loyal. I will ask them for a sample of their data. I am used to working with trimble receivers/trimble data collector/survey controller or access.


 
Posted : October 24, 2017 4:20 pm
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I was under the impression Carlson software would not work with Leica receivers. That's why I got the Geomax brand. Then again I run network GNSS, so maybe that's where the conflict appears.


 
Posted : October 24, 2017 4:34 pm
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I have not directly spoken with them, this is what I was told by my client, I have asked for an exact list of equipment and a sample file


 
Posted : October 24, 2017 4:40 pm

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I believe the G lines (the vector components) are identical for all receivers that make them.

The PDF in this folder [ https://www.x9gps.com/Tools/Utilities/RW52GPS/index.html&apos ;">RW52GPS ] has some examples and some notes.

Here is the [ http://web.carlsonsw.com/files/knowledgebase/kbase_attach/223/Raw%20File%20Records_3.0.pdf&apos ;">vector definition ]


 
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Great info, thanks Mark.


 
Posted : October 24, 2017 5:03 pm