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WoJo1
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I am trying to plot a map for a railroad and have never seen call like this before.?ÿ I have Net Deed Plotter and I am not sure how to enter this into the curve section.?ÿ I attached the deed with the description and would greatly appreciate any help on how to enter these calls.

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Hopefully the deed attached with the description.?ÿ First time using this site.

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Posted : July 30, 2018 6:51 am
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It's mostly a bounds deed, figure out the bounds elements and you have your location. They give lots of them for your use.

A?ÿcool deed, I didn't spend a lot of time reading but it's clear what the intent of the deed is.


 
Posted : July 30, 2018 10:02 am
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Welcome Wojo1

Gotta respect a deed with a practical description that can not be plotted without surveying all the adjoining lands.

The Railroad map should contain the pertinent centerline data.


 
Posted : July 30, 2018 10:37 am
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Have you gotten the val plan for this??ÿ That may have more information and everything may fall into place.


 
Posted : July 30, 2018 10:41 am
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This is all new to me.?ÿ What is a "val plan"?

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Posted : July 30, 2018 10:55 am

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Valuation plan/map

Find out who owns the RR in your area and look into getting copies of the maps.

They'll look something like?ÿ this:


 
Posted : July 30, 2018 12:12 pm
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Can you tell me what City this is in or post an aerial of the site? We own a Railroad in Fayette County, PA and I might be able to get you the Val Map if it's ours.


 
Posted : July 30, 2018 12:17 pm
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It is currently owned by Pennsylvania Railroad in California Pa.?ÿ It wraps around the university and along the river.


 
Posted : July 30, 2018 12:24 pm
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That Railroad is owned by Norfolk Southern.?ÿ A lot of times the County records are not updated, it happens to us all the time.?ÿ AECOM is the keeper of the Val Maps for NS.?ÿ I'm not sure who you contact, you might be able to do it through the AECOM website.?ÿ Below is a link to the FRA database to help you out if you run into this again.

http://fragis.fra.dot.gov/GISFRASafety/


 
Posted : July 31, 2018 7:02 pm
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You definitely want to bookmark Adam's link; having the subdivision name and mile marker helps a lot tracking down the correct plans. ?ÿ

The Class I railroads in the east are almost entirely created by corporate mergers (Pennsylvania became Penn Central, became Conrail, the was split mostly into NS and CSX with Amtrak getting some of the electrified lines), so land records are unreliable in tracking ownership. ?ÿConversely, knowing that it's a NS or CSX track now is worthless when it comes to knowing who originally aquired the real estate for rail purposes. ?ÿ


 
Posted : August 1, 2018 4:23 am

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Thank you.?ÿ All the assessment records are incorrect.?ÿ This website is very helpful.


 
Posted : August 1, 2018 8:58 am
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Posted by: James Fleming

You definitely want to bookmark Adam's link; having the subdivision name and mile marker helps a lot tracking down the correct plans. ?ÿ

The Class I railroads in the east are almost entirely created by corporate mergers (Pennsylvania became Penn Central, became Conrail, the was split mostly into NS and CSX with Amtrak getting some of the electrified lines), so land records are unreliable in tracking ownership. ?ÿConversely, knowing that it's a NS or CSX track now is worthless when it comes to knowing who originally aquired the real estate for rail purposes. ?ÿ

Attached is a list of Railroads and their predecessors.?ÿ I'm not sure when the list was compiled, but it has helped me out in the past.


 
Posted : August 2, 2018 6:45 am
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Here is how to get a Norfolk Southern Map?ÿ http://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/real-estate/norfolk-southern-services/valuation-map-request.html


 
Posted : August 3, 2018 1:20 pm
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We have been working on a large railroad project.?ÿ We found that hiring a researcher at the National Archives was a good solution.?ÿ We got the information we needed much quicker and the additional expense was justified by not spending time cajoling railroad officials to send us information.

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