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(@spledeus)
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I have informed the committee.?ÿ The iPhone used apparently did not have a declination option or they did not realize that there is a difference.?ÿ The neighbor who does not care for the feature chuckled...

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Posted : November 20, 2019 3:09 pm
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A post I made on October 25.

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"What a coinkydink??ÿ Last evening I was killing time in the hallway during an exceptionally boring section of the County Commission meeting.?ÿ The only acceptable thing to play with was my smarter-than-me phone.?ÿ For the first time, I checked out the compass app.?ÿ It became clear immediately that the building?ÿ did not match the compass reading by a few degrees.?ÿ Any common person looking at the building would say it ran north-south."

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 5:30 am
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Maybe not the right place, but one of my proudest moments involved true north. My daughter was a graduate student at Appalachian State University. She and some friends attended a star party sponsored by local amateur astronomers.

As they strolled among the telescopes, my daughter was asked by one of the amateur astronomers if she could find the north star. She looked up, found the big dipper and used its pointers to find the north star. Somewhat amazed, the amateur astronomer asked how she knew how to do that.

"My Dad taught me," she replied.

She could have been a big help on this project.

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 7:01 am
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Posted by: @mathteacher

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She could have been a big help on this project.

Just remember Polaris is about 1 degree from the celestial pole, in whichever direction according to the earth rotation at that hour.

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 7:10 am
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Posted by: @spledeus

I have informed the committee.?ÿ

You probably should have just kept it under your under your hat. What are they going to do about it, other than feel bad? What bad thing will happen due to the "misalignment"? They will probably just write you off as a smart-alecky know-it -all anyway.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 7:40 am
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@bill93

Just align your labrynth at upper or lower culmination, should be close enough.

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 7:43 am
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These are clergy, I know a lot of clergy.?ÿ These are people that went to an extra 4 years of school to learn about iron age spiritual stuff.

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 7:44 am
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@bill93

Yes, Polaris "orbits" the pole.

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 8:14 am
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I am a smart-alecky know-it-all with what I know.  My clients, the boards and the Town Staff appreciate it or at least know they can rely upon it.

Maybe they will fix their sign someday...

What is worse: I would have given them a baseline as a donation had they reached out before reaching for the iPhone.  

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 8:18 am
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@spledeus

My experience with members of other professions (for example, Fire Investigators) is they don't know what we can and can't provide.?ÿ It's not really their fault.?ÿ They have no idea that we can show them north or a lat/long or elevation or anything.?ÿ They really have no idea why we are there other than whiz bang gee whiz technology!!! We have to tell them.?ÿ I mean down to, yes I can give you slope and distance from the data. I'm betting they don't know to call you.

Land Surveyors as a profession has done a really poor job of communicating with the public what it is we do.?ÿ Most people are familiar with Doctors and Lawyers but Surveyor? what's that? Construction Worker?

 
Posted : November 21, 2019 9:44 am
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Posted by: @dave-karoly

Most people are familiar with Doctors and Lawyers but Surveyor? what's that?

We all think we know what Doctors and Lawyers can do for us. But do we really?

 
Posted : November 22, 2019 7:35 am
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At a local community center for children, built with our tax dollars...

I walk out the door, look down at my feet. There under my feet is a large compass rose. I look up...North is pointing at Northeast. We are doomed.

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Posted : November 22, 2019 9:39 am
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I find it a bit ironic that the ancient Egyptians, Celts, Mayans and Aztecs and lordy who knows else, were able to determine true north to a remarkably a degree of precision using the most rudimentary of tools and celestial observations and yet here we are relying on an iphone app and getting it royally goobered up.?ÿ

 
Posted : November 22, 2019 9:49 am
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@norman-oklahoma

I just recently learned that I need to put the lat/long/elevation on the key point (if I know what it is, it isn't always obvious if they don't tell me) in a note on the map I produce because a report I saw has the lat long at least a half mile off. They have published AP numbers too, the lat long is not within either fairly large parcel. Maybe if I do that it'll highlight for them, hey, I can ask Survey for this.

 
Posted : November 22, 2019 9:53 am
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@norman-oklahoma

I think that's do TO us.

 
Posted : November 22, 2019 10:57 am
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Posted by: @spledeus

I have informed the committee.?ÿ The iPhone used apparently did not have a declination option or they did not realize that there is a difference.?ÿ The neighbor who does not care for the feature chuckled...

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We use all this fancy stuff when all you have to do is "look up" (on a clear night of course)! 😯 ?ÿ

 
Posted : November 22, 2019 12:51 pm
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@mathteacher

wobble wobble

 
Posted : November 27, 2019 5:57 am
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@norman-oklahoma

I know that both generally give bad news. Am I right?

 
Posted : November 27, 2019 5:58 am
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@steven-metelsky

lol!

 
Posted : November 27, 2019 9:30 am