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My desktop is yelling at me to install Win10 about every ten (??) minutes. Being as wary of MS as I am, I think I'll do this:

I have an identical SSD in my drawer with a year old image of my SSD C: drive on it. (This saved my bacon when I got stung by the "FBI" extortion bug after downloading some music from a place I shouldn't have gone.)

I think I'll re-format it, make a current image, make certain it'll boot OK, then let MS have their way with the current drive.

Any negative thoughts?

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 6:01 am
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Question: If you use the upgrade path do you loose the W7 or W8 license?

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 7:29 am
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Peter Ehlert, post: 332896, member: 60 wrote: Question: If you use the upgrade path do you loose the W7 or W8 license?

Not likely. All you'd have to do is wipe the machine and re-install either, with your original product key. As they say in the commercial (I can't remember which one): "It's like it [Windows 10] never happened!"

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 8:10 am
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rfc, post: 332903, member: 8882 wrote: Not likely. All you'd have to do is wipe the machine and re-install either, with your original product key. As they say in the commercial (I can't remember which one): "It's like it [Windows 10] never happened!"

That would be great.
I heard the contrary when we were doing the Beta reviews... something like the existing W7/W8 security code get locked to W10, and W10 is only free for the first year as in "free rent for one year". I would like to read the new EULA but it seems to only be available after the install is 99%finished.
I am quite confused (obviously) so I will wait for the dust to settle 🙂

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 9:42 am
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This is a paraphrase from Ed Bott, of ZD Net:

Downgrade rights. As with all recent Windows releases, buying a PC with a Professional version of Windows installed by the OEM includes the right to downgrade to either of the two earlier versions, in this case Windows 7 Professional or Windows 8.1 Pro. The new agreement specifies an end date for those downgrade rights, which are valid "only for so long as Microsoft provides support for that earlier version." Under the 10-year Microsoft support lifecycle , that means downgrade rights for Windows 7 end in January 2020, and the clock runs out on Windows 8.1 in January 2023.

Here's a link to the article, which was written a few weeks prior to release:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-releases-new-license-terms-for-windows-10-no-surprises/

Pretty interesting and well written. Oh, and BTW, it was a Servpro commercial the phrase came from.

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 10:00 am
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Ed Bott is top notch.

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 10:02 am
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Peter Ehlert, post: 332896, member: 60 wrote: Question: If you use the upgrade path do you loose the W7 or W8 license?

You have 30 days to rollback to win7 after installing - assuming you do an "upgrade" install -after that you're stuck with it 🙁

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 12:25 pm
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jim.cox, post: 332954, member: 93 wrote: You have 30 days to rollback to win7 after installing - assuming you do an "upgrade" install -after that you're stuck with it 🙁

You're not stuck with it if you have media and a valid product key for the previous OS (and an appropriate backup of all your data). You don't have the luxury of the presumably no hassle roll back built into 10, but there's no saying that would work flawlessly anyway. Anyone should be able to determine within 30 days if there are any showstoppers in 10 for them, or if they just hate it. But if they can't figure it out in 30 days, they can always go back.

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 3:41 pm
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I think I will wate a few months to see if that works for others. I continually have problems reinstalling office and Windows 7 and having my authorization codes rejected, I don't expect less issues with this.
I also wish to read the EULA first, not just accept what is written in a blog.

 
Posted : August 21, 2015 7:28 pm
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Got sick of all the windows popup for upgrades, and then was having login/lockup problems, yesterday morning, so I let the computer upgrade to the solo office computer yesterday afternoon, all software previous seems to work so far.

 
Posted : August 22, 2015 2:55 am
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I have not turned on my Win7 Pro machine in a couple of months, so I have not even thought of upgrading to Win10.

Using XP Pro only and hope to keep it that way.

My desktop internet use is very limited these days as most is done on my phone.

What hits my computers with problems is sudden power loss that disrupts booting process and it costs me a day or two of use every time it happens for the computers to get the system settings back to normal.

 
Posted : August 22, 2015 10:30 am
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I have two machines running win 7 pro, and I keep getting those annoying "ready to upgrade" pop up windows. And yes, I do have the windows upgrade icon in the lower right hand corner. And, NO, I do NOT want to upgrade, so leave me alone!

I do have a laptop that I upgraded from windows 8 to 8.1, and I do not have the win10 icon on it. I have let the auto upgrades have at it, and there are currently no more available. But still, no update win10 icon. So, I took matters into my own hands and went to the windows website and picked the download to my computer now. That was yesterday afternoon. Now, about 110 megabytes later, it is still downloading....something. Apparently, windows 10 upgrade software is surreptuously loaded into everyone's computer if they are continuously connected to the 'net. It is apparently not a high speed download and will take place over time. I will go through the process of getting my plain laptop with no surveying software loaded on it yet and see how the upgrade thingy works. We'll see. I like windows 7 pro. And it works just fine as is. Right now, I just don't like the latest start window instead of the menus, but I can adjust. I want to play with it for a while before I put win10 on a familiar production machine.

I upgrade in "spurts"-DOS 6.22 -skip windows 3.1 - went straight to windows 95, then win98. I have worked through windows XP, and then to win7. I bought a laptop with win8 and hated it. That is the one I am upgrading to win10. I miss my "start" button......

 
Posted : August 23, 2015 8:12 pm
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So, now for the next question for the pundits...... since win 8 and 10 do not have indigenous games, what turned out to be the "solution? Use the "free" online games from MS (which have ads from what I have read), purchase a subscription to the games or another solution (like downloading 3rd party games)?

 
Posted : September 6, 2015 1:46 pm
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