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I tried - and tried - and tried - and tried to get my CS20 compass and disto calibrated so I could take sideshots, and I end up with "calibration failed" every time.

Leica support says I have to keep trying.

I'd like to get something done this week though.

Has anyone successfully done this?

 
Posted : November 17, 2016 12:53 pm
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wfwenzel, post: 400087, member: 7180 wrote: I tried - and tried - and tried - and tried to get my CS20 compass and disto calibrated so I could take sideshots, and I end up with "calibration failed" every time.

Leica support says I have to keep trying.

I'd like to get something done this week though.

Has anyone successfully done this?

Had to go out in the middle of the yard and do it on top of a wooden picnic table. Metal anywhere close seemed to mess with it more than I would have guessed.

 
Posted : November 17, 2016 2:07 pm
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^ what he said should work.

 
Posted : November 17, 2016 9:24 pm
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Getting a bit cold to strip down in the middle of an alfalfa field ....................... deer hunting tomorrow too. :confounded:

 
Posted : November 18, 2016 6:34 am
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They are finicky. I have two, one calibrated easily the first time, the other wouldn't work after trying 30-40 times........ the salesman was able to do it in 2 tries. Right speed and away from magnetic items is key.

Before you get all excited, the compass is complete shit, and the disto works but if it is dim enough to see the laser, than it is too dim for the camera to get any usable screen image.

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 9:41 pm
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summerprophet, post: 400616, member: 8874 wrote: They are finicky. I have two, one calibrated easily the first time, the other wouldn't work after trying 30-40 times........ the salesman was able to do it in 2 tries. Right speed and away from magnetic items is key.

Before you get all excited, the compass is complete ****, and the disto works but if it is dim enough to see the laser, than it is too dim for the camera to get any usable screen image.

Can you use the camera to sight the disto on the correct spot?
And is it possible to measure a point using 2 Disto distances? eg from 2 different GPS measured points.

 
Posted : November 23, 2016 2:06 pm
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squowse, post: 400903, member: 7109 wrote: Can you use the camera to sight the disto on the correct spot?
And is it possible to measure a point using 2 Disto distances? eg from 2 different GPS measured points.

Yeah, it's gotta, but don't know how to do it.

 
Posted : November 26, 2016 7:34 am
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squowse, post: 400903, member: 7109 wrote: Can you use the camera to sight the disto on the correct spot?
And is it possible to measure a point using 2 Disto distances? eg from 2 different GPS measured points.

In theory you can, the problem is that typically, you want to observe something relatively the same elevation as you are. This involves rotating the collector to a flat position, as the disto (and camera) is on the top of the unit. Now all you can see on the screen is a reflection of the sky.

I was there with some Leica reps and they did the trial and error to get it to do the two point intersection. I cannot remember if they were successful, but what I came away with is that it would be considerably faster to do it with a tape measure.

I know I rip on Leica, but the hardware really is fantastic. Tracking and speed of the ts16 is astounding, and getting satellite fix (that checks) under canopy still impresses me.

Their software is clearly meant to impress folks in a boardroom, once you realize that, and stop trying to utilize it, things get really productive!

 
Posted : November 28, 2016 8:48 pm
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Yeah, you're right about the software. SMI was a lot better. I realize I'm not operating a HP48 here, but still we have lots of challenges the boardroom will never appreciate. While I couldn't write the code, I could design the software to be better.

I got lock under hardwood canopy on a steep slope yesterday with the GS16, and I'm amazed. One thing that's different from the 1230 GNSS is watching and trying to guess whether you will get lock. I could tell pretty reliably if it would happen with the 1230, but this one will go from $2 to lock unexpectedly. Or not.

 
Posted : December 1, 2016 11:11 am
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summerprophet, post: 401431, member: 8874 wrote: In theory you can, the problem is that typically, you want to observe something relatively the same elevation as you are. This involves rotating the collector to a flat position, as the disto (and camera) is on the top of the unit. Now all you can see on the screen is a reflection of the sky.

I was there with some Leica reps and they did the trial and error to get it to do the two point intersection. I cannot remember if they were successful, but what I came away with is that it would be considerably faster to do it with a tape measure.

I know I rip on Leica, but the hardware really is fantastic. Tracking and speed of the ts16 is astounding, and getting satellite fix (that checks) under canopy still impresses me.

Their software is clearly meant to impress folks in a boardroom, once you realize that, and stop trying to utilize it, things get really productive!

I did the 2 point intersection with the disto on some trees, and it worked out OK. Just make sure the resulting line and offset side is correct. My Disto is calibrated to reduce slope to horizontal.

You can use the camera to point the laser dot. Handy, and more so if you could eliminate the reflection as you say.

 
Posted : December 19, 2016 9:56 am