After a few years with C&G I used Softdesk/LDT for some 14 years, reaching some measure of competence creating and manipulating point databases, surfaces, and alignments. Then, last fall, I was obliged to switch to Carlson. This I did with no more training than a few pointers from coworkers, with only a few hiccups.
Now I am attempting to create centerlines in Inroads. What a piece of .. of ....never mind. I don't want this post deleted.
"Help" is even more of a joke with this software than it typically is. Not a funny joke. I can't believe that anyone actually gets any kind of work done with this garbage. No wonder they have a tiny segment of the market. Only DOT's with government money could afford to be this unproductive.
My question ....... do any of you using Inroads find it to be extremely buggy? Is there any kind of decent documentation? I know, training. So where is it? Anywhere within driving distance of OKC?
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Norman,
I can help you with the InRoads questions. I can setup a virtual desktop for training purposes.
Drop me email at lee@leegreen.com or call me 315-831-8175.
Lee Green
> Now I am attempting to create centerlines in Inroads. What a piece of .. of ....never mind. I don't want this post deleted.
>No wonder they have a tiny segment of the market. Only DOT's with
>government money could afford to be this unproductive.
You think InRoads is a pain; try the DOT's other big software mistake, CAiCE. Required in some of their contracts.
Lee Green was my trainer some many years ago now on InRoads.
You cannot find a more qualified trainer than Lee.
Thanks Lee!
And if you think the DOTs are a pain, try dealing with the Army Corps of Engineers, who also use that dysfunctional software, and then expect their clients to create a "Record Drawing" set at the end of the job... It involves using some flavor of Microstation to completely redo the original plan set, which is often many hundreds of pages. What a waste of taxpayer money.
> ....try the DOT's other big software mistake, CAiCE.
Autodesk bought out CAICE, then a couple years later introduced C3d. There is a connection.
> .....try dealing with the Army Corps of Engineers...
I have worked with the Corps on more than one occasion. Sometimes they will be unable to produce anything at all, but frequently you will get a data dump of reams of useless documents to wade through.
> Autodesk bought out CAICE, then a couple years later introduced C3d. There is a connection.
And yet curiously, AutoDesk continues to retail CAiCE; the latest version dating from circa 2009(?), with various support DLL copyrights dated from 2000-2002, some as as far back as 1997.
It's hard to imagine who the buyers would be these days, except for those contractually required to provide deliverables in CAiCE format. Still costs a pretty penny for a seat, $6,000(? historical data) for the complete package including CADLinks?
> It's hard to imagine who the buyers would be these days...
I have never heard anybody - other than salesmen - with anything good to say about CAICE. But nobody is really leaping to Inroads defense here either.
