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(@jim-frame)
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Perhaps "n.t.s." means "nice try, sucker."

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 8:18 am
(@bstrand)
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I don't get it. ????

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 8:39 am
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@bstrand

There is a key dimension missing from the detail.

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 8:42 am
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They do not agree.?ÿ Out of order.?ÿ Missing calls.

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 8:44 am
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Hey, that means you get to choose the ones you want!

...right?

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 8:49 am
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A reasonable working assumption is that the 12' jog is symmetrical.?ÿ Unfortunately, using that assumption the parcel doesn't close by 10 feet, so right now I've got nothing.

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 9:09 am
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@norman-oklahoma

Ah OK.?ÿ I saw that but I thought maybe there was a bigger thing I wasn't seeing.

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 9:13 am
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@jim-frame

Maybe there's good reason for all those line changes and jogs, but I just shook my head and imagined the engineer designing that, never having left his CAD station.?ÿ Hope you don't have to set 4' bounds at all those points

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 9:14 am
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Missing a bearing and distance on the eastern of the short legs.

The 17.14 ft and 12.00 ft legs are swapped.

The 17.14 ft line's bearing is NE not SE.

It would be good to have more than the minimum to define the curves.

Did I get them all?

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Posted : 06/04/2021 9:28 am
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Not too sure?

Nobody tried surveying???

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????

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 9:41 am
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@bill93

It would be good to have more than the minimum to define the curves.

Not necessarily.

The Wattles book (iirc) describes how too much curve data can result in conflicting data that clouds the title.?ÿ Arc length, radius, and chord bearing are what I prefer.

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 9:56 am
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@jim-frame

Maybe there's good reason for all those line changes and jogs, but I just shook my head and imagined the engineer designing that, never having left his CAD station.?ÿ Hope you don't have to set 4' bounds at all those points

Once upon a time the Georgia DOT decided to reduce the amount of right-of-way that they had to purchase.?ÿ Instead of choosing an even offset (40, 50, 60, etc.) for jogs in the right-of-way, they decided to change the offset whenever the cut or fill slope extended beyond their standard right-of-way.?ÿ Sometimes the offset would change dozens of times in a mile or so of road.?ÿ Needless to say they wouldn't pay for a concrete monument to be set at every break.?ÿ Since we had done the survey and design we could stake the R/W initially, but 10 years down the road reestablishing the R/W became a frustrating situation.?ÿ Luckily they, eventually, decided that was a bad idea.

Andy

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 10:11 am
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For curves I want to know four things: radius of the curve, arc length, chord length and chord bearing.?ÿ They do not tell you if the length provided is the chord length or the arc length.?ÿ On a large radius the two numbers are very similar but a few hundredths here and there add up over a long route survey.

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 10:19 am
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I only want chords if they're non-tangent.?ÿ Otherwise, just give me R & L

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 10:55 am
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@jph

?ÿI've seen too many with HUGE radii and a relatively short length where it is next to impossible to tell if it's an angle to the left or the right.?ÿ It would help if the curve data was ALWAYS given on the inside of the curve, but, that's seems to be asking too much.?ÿ That is where having both chord bearing and distance is quite helpful.

 
Posted : 06/04/2021 11:03 am
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