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 ppm
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Have to do a drawing at 100 scale, and have four different viewports with breaklines all over the place.
Is there a way to group paperspace objects together like viewports and breaklines so that when I move one the all move together?

 
Posted : May 7, 2017 9:15 am
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ppm, post: 427208, member: 6808 wrote: Have to do a drawing at 100 scale, and have four different viewports with breaklines all over the place.
Is there a way to group paperspace objects together like viewports and breaklines so that when I move one the all move together?

It would help know what software and version you are using. Sounds like AutoCAD, but could be Intellicad, perhaps MicroStation (probably not). My guess is you should try using Model Space, Paper Space with Xreferences. Just a guess.

 
Posted : May 7, 2017 10:19 am
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ppm, post: 427208, member: 6808 wrote: Is there a way to group paperspace objects together like viewports and breaklines

I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which I'd have breaklines in paperspace, but I'm not having any success.

 
Posted : May 7, 2017 6:17 pm
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ppm, post: 427208, member: 6808 wrote: Have to do a drawing at 100 scale, and have four different viewports with breaklines all over the place.
Is there a way to group paperspace objects together like viewports and breaklines so that when I move one the all move together?

Not sure if you're wanting to move viewports around together, or to pan within one viewport and have another viewport pan correspondingly. If it's the latter, I don't think there's a way to do that, but if it's the former, I would try grouping the desired objects. The command is either Group, or Classicgroup for a more user friendly window.

Jim Frame, post: 427256, member: 10 wrote: I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which I'd have breaklines in paperspace, but I'm not having any success.

I don't think he's talking about surface break lines, if that's what you're thinking. I'm thinking more along the lines of "here's this other monument 1,000 feet away that I'm showing with a break line". I've done that more times than not.

 
Posted : May 8, 2017 3:23 am
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Select the items you want grouped together type G enter and they are grouped as an unnamed group and can be manipulated as a group. To manage your groups like BlitzkriegBob said use the ClassicGroup command, when the dialog opens check the include unnamed box and you will see a list of all of your unnamed groups, explore this dialog, there are a number of useful features in here, the one that you will use most often is the "selectable" toggle to switch between group and individual selectability. Groups are a powerful and often overlooked weapon in the autocad arsenal.

 
Posted : May 8, 2017 4:02 am
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Carlson Software (version 2015, with AutoCAD).
BlitzkriegBob, has it right... I am referring to a break in a line, to show a monument 1000' away that at my scale would be 15" off my sheet.

 
Posted : May 8, 2017 6:13 am
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ppm, post: 427302, member: 6808 wrote: Carlson Software (version 2015, with AutoCAD).
BlitzkriegBob, has it right... I am referring to a break in a line, to show a monument 1000' away that at my scale would be 15" off my sheet.

I just cheat, and physically 'break' the line in model space near the edge of the paper space limits. I would love to see a better way...

 
Posted : May 8, 2017 10:01 am
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In paperspace have two viewports, one around the site, the other around the tie. Then just draw a quick "break" symbol or import if you already have one, and place/draw at where the line ends in the viewports.

 
Posted : May 8, 2017 11:21 am
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My approach in civil 3d:

I have the actual line drawn to the monument and tell c3d to Label with B & D. Then, I put the actual (full-length line) on my "no plot" layer. This leaves the B & D label intelligent and it can be slid to any readable spot along the line.

Then, I drop my mon symbol wherever it fits in my viewport (snapped to the actual line for visual correctness) and draw a new line over the no plot line with a break-line symbol where it works.

c3d exports to bitmap get pixelated but, I'm attaching one as an example.

Attached files

 
Posted : May 8, 2017 5:44 pm
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I often copy entities out to the side and arrange and annotate as needed and show in a viewport to the scale required, along with relevant comment re latter. In world view ie.
Often I make a block of such and edit as required.
Thats from a Bricscad user. Intellicad same.

 
Posted : May 8, 2017 7:12 pm
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Thad, post: 427359, member: 3408 wrote: In paperspace have two viewports, one around the site, the other around the tie. Then just draw a quick "break" symbol or import if you already have one, and place/draw at where the line ends in the viewports.

That's exactly what I've always done since paper space became a thing.

 
Posted : May 9, 2017 3:10 am