I see on amazon that they have AutoCAD 2014 + Autodesk Subscription on sale today.
-G
Goodness, thats the sales price?
wow! and what's the yearly extortion...er, I mean, subscription fee after that?
> wow! and what's the yearly extortion...er, I mean, subscription fee after that?
Subscription for a single seat of plain AutoCAD is about $500.
It all depends on what you need it for or what you are doing. If you are primarily doing title surveys then you probably don't need it. We are upgrading an old one and buying another license of C3D because more and more of our clients want C3D deliverables (we also have to deliver a lot of data ready to go into GIS systems). Also we're getting more and more drawings from clients that are full of proxy objects or are newer versions that we can open. Intellicad just isn't cutting it nor is embedded AutoCAD.
Also the price is similar or cheaper than other CAD software such as Microstation w/InRoads (I think it runs around 10k) and SolidWorks. Vector works is a bit cheaper but also not as powerful. ArcGIS is also around 7k for the standard version.
Of course all this cost is built into overhead and our rates reflect that.
I do land title survey's, I also do topo's, ranch survey's, tree survey's, volume survey's, etc, etc, Please don't justify your company's willing to pay that kind of cost because its ACAD and must be bowed down too. Been doing it for 20 years with software that costs 1/10 of that.
ACAD guys will always be ACAD guys until they have to foot the bill out of their own bank account.
Randy
What do you use, Randy? If I may ask.
Not bowing down to AutoDesk...just to the clients that pay my bills and want a specific deliverable. We currently work in Carlson and in Microstation. We use Microstation because we do a lot of transportation work...NYSDOT uses Microstation and has very rigid standards concerning CAD. We work for engineering firms that don't even own a licence of AutoCAD. We're switching to Civil 3D because our clients want 3D data in native format to the software they use. We're switching because they want us to start doing some BIM and modeling work. We're switching because we are consistently getting drawings from clients that we cannot open or convert. We're switching because it integrates better with other software our clients and we ourselves are using (Leica databases, GIS software, modeling software). The client pays my bills, if they want data a certain way, we have to provide it to them that way or they find someone who will.
Carlson Survey is $3000 with AutoCAD, but survey is limited...you can do a lot more with Carlson Civil, especially with the 3D tools and with terrain stuff. Carslon Civil is $3000 with IntelliCAD, but with IntelliCAD you loose a ton of functionality with image files, with data formats, and with large databases. So AutoCAD with Carlson Civil would run around the same price as Civil3D. And nothing against Carlson or whomever you use, we are keeping our licences for field computers and frankly there are some things that Carlson does better. But our clients want Civil3D and Microstation data, so we're going to supply it to them.
Tom
[sarcasm]"Love"[/sarcasm] euphemisms (like subscription) for greed :-/ .
We're switching to Civil 3D because our clients want 3D data in native format to the software they use
That's how it starts: "every time I try to get out they pull me back in" or something like that B-)
:good:
I bet most of us on this site would not get out
bed for less than $500.00
I have ZERO problem with Autodesk $1000.00 C3D subscription fee
annually. What gets my goat is the autodesk LIP service towards bugs
and features that don't work. So I am going to pay subscription with
post
dated check contingent on no bugs unless a email is issued with
a complete description and fix date.
Its lost production chasing bugs not subscription cost that is killing C3D.
Peter K
