Civil3D help with bearings in the properties box

Have you tried going into the label style and changing the information that gets displayed in the bearing component. There's a list of items that can be displayed, and I am not sure whether world bearing is one or not. (you may have already tried this)

Good thought. B

ut that just gave me another issue that I will have to deal with when I finally get to making an exhibit. The bearings in the label routine have the same issue. I don't see any setting for ucs base there either.

I don't think there is a way C3D will report the bearing according to your rotated UCS. It will always show WCS values under angle box. But if you have your UCS rotated and try the 'List' command (li) it will include your rotated ucs with the solution, then you will get the desired bearing.

Yes, list gives me the correct data. I was trying to get away from the list command though as it is time consuming and distracting with the text window opening and closing all the time.

Yeah the pop-up is annoying, C3d 2014 setting eliminates the pop-up window. I used to just make the popup window small and push it to the side of the screen to keep it out of the way. Of course this works best with dual screens.

I would want to kill me if I said this, but...

Is there a reason that you don't want to rotate the entire project onto the actual bearing (i.e. north is north) that you intend to use?

That way, your labels should drop in without any headache.

If you like the way it lays on the screen without rotating, you can simply 'dview' back to the orientation you prefer once you've rotate the entire drawing.

Vern,

I'm with Back-Chain, unless I'm completely not understanding your particulars. Rotate with the Align command.

Dave

Vern,

Here's another idea:

Dave

The drawing is a work in progress and I don't know yet where it will end up.

Eventually I will establish some basis of bearing which may be the current world, the record plat in question, or another adjoining plat. Right now I want to keep the coordinate system in the field or I might end up with two or three different field coordinate systems.

That whole tab is not editable in this particular drawing. The drawing started life as a R14 I think (not my creation)

I went ahead with posing the problem on the Autodesk forum and the responses so far indicate Nyet! Can't do it.

So how do you guys who are constantly talking "REC. and AM shown on the drawing" do it. And considering that question, how sure are you that you are doing it right?

The way I have always done it (God, I hate that cliche)in R14 was I stored an UCS of record for the adjoining plat, labeled all the lines, reset the UCS to world and labeled all the lines again. All done, automated, with no typos. Still the possibility of being wrong but at least I'm sure it wasn't my fat fingers or dyslexia.

Vern,

I'm finally understanding your question. You have an AutoCAD question, not a Civil 3D question. I was thinking in terms of Civil 3D until I saw your post at the Civil 3D Forum, and the responses you got are right--C3D doesn't use UCS.

Your Transformation Tab will be grayed-out until you choose a projection in the Units And Zone Tab of your Drawing Settings. It doesn't have to be State Plane, but it does have to be defined.

Dave

Yep! Typical Autocad, it has been fixed beyond repair.:-S

BTW, I set a temporary zone and tried that. It didn't work either.

Vern,

I'm still having trouble understanding what you want to do. If you have a disagreement between Measured and Record distances and bearings, then you need to draw one or the other and note accordingly.

Dave

I received a solution to the labeling portion of the problem from the Autodesk forum.

Here is a link for those interested; Autodesk forum question

Still the properties dialogue will lie like a dog, but at least I know not to trust it.