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(@spledeus)
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I have two machines with Civil 3d plus Carlson. The one I run has no issues, the other one cannot import the symbols when running field to finish.

I do not have the symbols imported into the symbol library on either computer. I have a template file that has every block needed. We are using the same F2F file and template as both are located on the server.

I can take a drawing that will not process in the other machine and process it in mine.

 
Posted : October 16, 2015 11:39 am
 adam
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Carlson holds there symbols in its own folder, maybe it is missing on the one that isnt working. "c" drive-carlson projects-settings-symbols.

 
Posted : October 16, 2015 12:49 pm
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Sorry to hijack your post, but I got a question about carlson f2f. Does the line when being drawn automatically draw outside its offsets? e.g the width of the wall. Also Does it accept 2 point symbols? e.g over here the manholes are rectangle and not square, thus 2 points are needed to show the direction? is carlson f2f able to handle it? The dealer in my area are not able to answer my questions.

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Posted : October 17, 2015 4:48 am
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Is symbols selected in the f2f tab? On the line where points, symbols and lines is? I have never run it from a template file like you, I have all my symbols in their respective folders, and just import each folder on each machine...only takes a couple minutes to do.

 
Posted : October 17, 2015 7:02 am
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Sireath - I have never ventured into the super smart variables, but I believe there are ways to use multiple codes to define one block - rotation, scale, etc. I have never had a crew advanced enough to deal with such codes. I am lucky when they remember to add the B and E (I changed +7 and -7 to B and E for the linework). I do not believe you can offset the line automatically, but I can only assume that they would add this feature. My senior drafter was all proud to recently find the CAD function that allows one to draft two polylines at once, but that is not in the F2F. I have not found it overly useful.

As far as the symbols, the systems are identical and the other machine worked a year ago. It was my machine, but was briefly used by a dastardly microstation drafter and now a user who is transitioning from LDD to C3D w/ Carlson... I should take it back and make it work. It is the best machine in the office.

 
Posted : October 17, 2015 6:32 pm
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Actually you can offset the lines automatically, and here's what the Carlson help page says:

Offsets: OH, OV, OFL, OFB
The codes "OH" and "OV" stand for offset horizontal and offset vertical. These offset codes apply to 2D and 3D polylines. A single set of offset codes can be used to offset the polyline a set amount. For example,
10, 500, 500, 100, EP OH2.5 OV-.5
11, 525, 527, 101, EP
12, 531, 533, 103, EP
This would create a polyline connecting points 10,11 and 12 and an offset polyline with a 2.5 horizontal and -0.5 vertical offset. The direction of the horizontal offset is determined by the direction of the polyline. A positive horizontal offset goes right from the polyline direction and a negative goes left. The horizontal and vertical offset amounts apply starting at the point with the offset codes until a new offset code or the end of the polyline. Only one horizontal and vertical offset can be applied to 2D polylines. For 3D polylines, multiple offset codes can be used to make a variable offset. For example,
10, 500, 500, 100, EP OH2.5 OV-.5
11, 525, 527, 101, EP OH5.5 OV-.75
12, 531, 533, 103, EP OH7.5
This would offset the first point horizontal 2.5 and vertical -0.5, the second point horizontal 5.5 and vertical -0.75 and the third point horizontal 7.5 and vertical -0.75.

When there are multiple "OH" codes for the same point, the polyline is offset multiple times.

The "OFL" code stands for offset left horizontal. The only difference with the "OH" code is that you don't have to enter the "-" to go left.

The "OFB" code stands for offset both left and right horizontal. For example, if the points follow the center of a ROW, the OFB code can be use to create the left and right edges of the ROW.

 
Posted : October 18, 2015 5:23 am
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spledeus, post: 340799, member: 3579 wrote: I have two machines with Civil 3d plus Carlson. The one I run has no issues, the other one cannot import the symbols when running field to finish.

I do not have the symbols imported into the symbol library on either computer. I have a template file that has every block needed. We are using the same F2F file and template as both are located on the server.

I can take a drawing that will not process in the other machine and process it in mine.

In the machine that doesn't process/insert symbols, if you go to F2F, and click the Edit Codes tab, are the codes there? If so, are they the exact same codes as in the other machine?

Also, can you compare all of the F2F settings between he two machines, and are all the settings/options the same on both of them?

 
Posted : October 21, 2015 6:39 am