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Carlson 2017 --- process raw data ?

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(@mag-eye)
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This is my first go at processing raw data in Carlson. My DC has an export format of Carlson rw5 so that's the format im using... couldn't hurt.
I have it configured to angle right. Once opened in Carlson all my s/s appear to be angle right format but the angle sets for my traverse are showing azm.??? see attached.
Is this the norm, and if so should the code column drop down be changed to az. And if the data for the sets is azm and Carlson is expecting angle right then how is the graphic any where close to correct?

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Posted : 19/10/2016 10:40 am
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What does the "BK ..." line above the traverse set look like?
The "Azi" column should be blank, and the "SetAzi" column should be 0.0000, if you set zero on the gun.

Looking at the BD line, it looks like the backsight was not set for a zero angle, so I'm wondering if the output program you used actually is giving you the correct angle output.

 
Posted : 19/10/2016 11:57 am
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Yes the azi column is blank and the set azi is 0.0000
Just reviewed some old data and all my rw5 files have the angle sets in azm format, never really noticed as my old procedure was to convert to a fbk file and all angles were in angle right format.

 
Posted : 19/10/2016 12:05 pm
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Sounds like the data collector is having an issue with converting to the Carlson file format. Might re-check your settings on that. Maybe try downloading the file in another format, and see what it looks like.

Are you downloading from within the Carlson program? Try downloading from the data collector in it's native format, and let Carlson convert the download file to the .rw5 format.

 
Posted : 19/10/2016 12:14 pm
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I was thinking the same. Im gona try that as soon as I get a chance..

 
Posted : 20/10/2016 3:51 am
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Based on the image, all I can think is that you didn't set 0 for your BS in the field.

That said, you really don't need to anyway, the software will compute the AR. Just go to Tools pull-down, then Reduce Direct-Reverse.

 
Posted : 20/10/2016 5:35 am
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I am comfortable with the way SMI reports my raw data. My backsight is an azimuth with angle right for side shots and traverse sets. I am sure I could change it, but it just makes sense. From time to time I find, some inadvertent button pushing changes my settings. Two months ago I was in the field and for whatever reason wanted to check my raw data against my field notes. It was not there. Somehow or other on start up I changed settings. Since my main goal that day was GPS and tying into same, I decided I would not reshoot anything. The results of all traverse and monument sets are written in the filed notes and hey all checked out. If other shots seemed off it was a project I was coming back to on another day. I still have not gotten into the habit of checking my raw data flag, too many years of not checking it.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : 20/10/2016 6:45 am
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The graphic looks fine if I'm interpreting the stacked point numbers correctly. What software are you exporting the Carlson RW5 from? Trimble Access has a setting in the conventional survey style to set zero or use azimuths. You might check your instrument set up or the export set up to see if it's set to azimuth.

 
Posted : 20/10/2016 12:27 pm
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What software are you using to collect the data? Carlson Survey has an import function that will import most types of RAW data. It might eliminate some of the conversion issues.

 
Posted : 20/10/2016 1:19 pm
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Ok guys im using a Leica ts15i smartworx viva and its been a few years since the sw has been updated. The conversion is done in smartworx:
created by X-change core engine v6.0.0. I tried downloading to Carlson in Leica's native format "dbx" and letting Carlson convert. Also exported a tds rw5 and a Carlson rw5. Turns out there is quite a difference in results. as far as I can tell tds rw5 gives me the best with the direct and reverse sets crunched to one angle right. and the correct record type being tr for traverse.

Anyone else using same or similar equip. that has any input?

 
Posted : 21/10/2016 7:48 am
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I am unaware of any 3rd party office software that will read native Leica dbx files other than later versions of Microsurvey (which Leica bought).

 
Posted : 26/10/2016 1:50 pm