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Donald Gardner
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I'm trying to move and rotate an entire point file, about 150 points, to a different location in a drawing to match up with another drawing file. I do what I've always done in the past, make a block out of the points, move them, rotate them, explode the block, and update crd file from drawing. Works fine except for one crippling detail, it sets all elevations to zero. Anyone know what's causing this, I don't recall ever having the problem in the past and I don't particularly want to move the drawing to the points for a variety of reasons.


 
Posted : July 21, 2014 7:50 pm
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What about keeping your points in place and using an XREF for the drawing (I assume a design drawing)?


 
Posted : July 21, 2014 8:28 pm
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Make sure when you draw them to begin with that you have "locate on real z" box checked.


 
Posted : July 21, 2014 8:31 pm
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Use the Translate & Rotate functions under Points, Adjust Coordinates. They're very flexible.


 
Posted : July 21, 2014 8:53 pm
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I have run into this problem before. I second what Stephen said. Now I use the translate and rotate points commands to move and rotate points. It maintains the coordinate elevations unless you have the process elevations box checked.

Before I started using those commands, I found that I was moving to the points to a reference point that had an elevation of zero.

I hope this helps.


 
Posted : July 21, 2014 9:40 pm

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:good:

Shift + Ctrl + C = Copybase
Shift + Ctrl + V = Pasteblock

Just make sure the block is on the right Z before the EXPLODE!


 
Posted : July 22, 2014 12:05 am
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> I have run into this problem before. I second what Stephen said. Now I use the translate and rotate points commands to move and rotate points. It maintains the coordinate elevations unless you have the process elevations box checked.
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> Before I started using those commands, I found that I was moving to the points to a reference point that had an elevation of zero.
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> I hope this helps.

A third vote for using the translate routine. It's very intuitive and works great.


 
Posted : July 22, 2014 7:25 am
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I guess I should say that this is the method I endorse, also. Manipulating points graphically can be done, but it seems less "surveyorish". 🙂


 
Posted : July 22, 2014 7:30 am
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be careful how you are moving them. If moving from one 3d object of a given elevation to another 3d object of another given elevation, your points may experience the relative elevation difference. When manually moving points, use 2d entities.


 
Posted : July 22, 2014 4:46 pm
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If I move by hand I draw a line to the two new coord locations , and make sure the line is set to zero . The draw a line between the two common points set this line to zero. move and rotate. update coords.


 
Posted : July 22, 2014 7:22 pm