Well, I turned on my windows 10 machine last night. I do not leave it on since I don't use it much these days.
I went through another "upgrade" which took hours. Trust me, I don't see any actual "upgrade". Just an added "feature". When I leave the machine for a while, I turn off the monitors. After this latest so called upgrade, an issue I have been experiencing has gotten worse.
Before, when I left the machine for a while, I would come back and things would be just fine. If I left the machine overnight, the monitors would not come back on. Just a message "no signal". I had previously set the machine to never sleep, never to turn off the monitors, all that. A hard reset was required.
Well, now, if I leave the machine for an hour or two, the monitors won't come back on. I have to do a hard restart. The mouse does not bring it back up, neither does the keyboard .(yes, I checked those settings, both are set to bring the machine back to life) I have the power button set to turn the machine off when pressed. Nothing happens, at all when I press that button. Have to hard restart.
Looking on the web, there are tons, allot, seemingly millions of the Exact Same Complaint. Is there a solution from Microslop? Of course not. There are intermittent solutions that have worked for a few folks here and there, a hit or miss type thing.
I am on the verge of going through the pain of reformatting so I can go back to Windows 7 which worked great on the machine. I will need a long weekend. I have had win 10 on for a few months. Every time I turn the machine on, a new "feature" seems to be added that just makes things worse.
I got a new computer last week. It came with Windows 7, but I figured this was a good time to update, so I wiped out all the Dell bloatware and installed Windows 10 to a repartitioned hard drive. This process required many (many!) reboots, and in the early stages I experienced the "dark machine" phenomenon after leaving it unattended for an hour or two. I don't know if it's still doing that or not, I just haven't had enough time to observe its behavior closely. But it was certainly annoying when it did occur.
I would be inclined to say "roll back" to 7 while you can do so relatively easily.
My thought is that Microsoft assumes everybody strictly uses laptops or tablets these days. But this blackout issue is happening on desktops and laptops at least what I've seen so far.
Unfortunately, Windows 10 still does not seem ready for prime time use.
I get the same thing on my laptop fairly often using Windows 10. It occurs almost every time I set the computer to "sleep" and leave it for more than an hour or two, but also happens with annoying regularity after I've shut the machine down completely. It usually takes anywhere from one to four hard reboots to clear it up. It seems to make some difference on the number of reboots required if I unplug and remove the battery for a full minute prior to powering back up.
Going back to Windows 7 isn't really an option for me anymore.
I do not consider hard resets to be very good for the machine nor the operating system. The problem got worse after the most recent "upgrade" for me.
I have the feeling I will be reformatting and headed back to something that works, i.e. win 7 in my case.
eapls2708, post: 366704, member: 589 wrote: Going back to Windows 7 isn't really an option for me anymore.
curious, what do you get from W10 that is lacking in W7 (or XP for that matter)?
John, post: 366705, member: 791 wrote:
I have the feeling I will be reformatting and headed back to something that works, i.e. win 7 in my case.
You can leave W10 alone and install a Linux along side so that you have a usable computer, now.
Most Linux versions include partitioning tools, user friendly and safe ones.
It would probably take much less time and effort that to format and reinstall.
Later on you can reboot to the W10 and see if MS has repaired it.
Peter Ehlert, post: 366707, member: 60 wrote: curious, what do you get from W10 that is lacking in W7 (or XP for that matter)?
It's not a matter of preference. I just don't think that I have the ability to revert back or that all of my applications have the necessary backward compatibility.
Upgrading SWMBO's computer from 8(which we both hated) to 10 resulted in her printer printing without black ink. Bought new black ink cartridge (2/3 the cost of a new printer) - same result. Hooked up my printer - same result. Hooked up spare printer from work - same result. Rolled back to 8 - same result. Hooked up my printer - same result. Hooked up her printer - same result.
I have uninstalled every drive imaginable and read hundreds of ages of documentation and "solutions" and it still will not print with black... Thanks Microsoft!
eapls2708, post: 366704, member: 589 wrote: I get the same thing on my laptop fairly often using Windows 10. It occurs almost every time I set the computer to "sleep" and leave it for more than an hour or two, but also happens with annoying regularity after I've shut the machine down completely. It usually takes anywhere from one to four hard reboots to clear it up. It seems to make some difference on the number of reboots required if I unplug and remove the battery for a full minute prior to powering back up.
Going back to Windows 7 isn't really an option for me anymore.
I've found that on many of the Dell's we've gotten lately, either because of the hardware, or because of Win 10, when it goes into a "deep" sleep...more than 15 minutes or however you have it set up, you need to first push the power button briefly. Wait 10 seconds or so, then press the space bar. Try it.
I changed my update settings on my Win7Pro64 when I hooked it up several weeks ago and so far it has not attempted to update again without asking me.
Have to watch it close every time I allow an update because it does go back to default settings if you simply click ok when the update is over.
XP Pro was as far as I wanted to venture and only got this unit to stay on the internet.
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Peter Ehlert, post: 366708, member: 60 wrote: You can leave W10 alone and install a Linux along side so that you have a usable computer, now.
Most Linux versions include partitioning tools, user friendly and safe ones.
It would probably take much less time and effort that to format and reinstall.Later on you can reboot to the W10 and see if MS has repaired it.
At this point, that actually may be an option. The next time I start the computer up, I will look at the programs I have on it that I hope to keep using. I do hate the thought of having to redo the machine.....
Does your favorite flavor of Linux have a list of compatible programs? What mail program do you use? I have the ebay program (turbolister) that I would want to use among other things.
John, post: 366765, member: 791 wrote: At this point, that actually may be an option. The next time I start the computer up, I will look at the programs I have on it that I hope to keep using. I do hate the thought of having to redo the machine.....
Does your favorite flavor of Linux have a list of compatible programs? What mail program do you use? I have the ebay program (turbolister) that I would want to use among other things.
I use LMDE Mate, Linux Mint Debian Edition with the Mate desktop (based on Debian). very stable but not simple for raw beginners.
Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu, which is also based on Debian) is easy for beginners, and is also stable. Both have LibreOffice, FireFox browser, and Thunderbird Mail included, along with video and printer drivers, and flash. Very large user base, lots of support. https://www.linuxmint.com/
I have used Thunderbird for many years, long before I used Linux as my primary OS. It is exactly the same on Linux as Windows.
Turbo Lister is built for Windows, it may run under WINE emulator but I have never tried it... or seek out alternatives. http://alternativeto.net/software/turbo-lister/?platform=linux If it is highly important search/ask at the Mint Forums https://forums.linuxmint.com/
Peter Ehlert, post: 366799, member: 60 wrote: I use LMDE Mate, Linux Mint Debian Edition with the Mate desktop (based on Debian). very stable but not simple for raw beginners.
Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu, which is also based on Debian) is easy for beginners, and is also stable. Both have LibreOffice, FireFox browser, and Thunderbird Mail included, along with video and printer drivers, and flash. Very large user base, lots of support. https://www.linuxmint.com/
I have used Thunderbird for many years, long before I used Linux as my primary OS. It is exactly the same on Linux as Windows.
Turbo Lister is built for Windows, it may run under WINE emulator but I have never tried it... or seek out alternatives. http://alternativeto.net/software/turbo-lister/?platform=linux If it is highly important search/ask at the Mint Forums https://forums.linuxmint.com/
Ok, I have now saved your suggestions (in a fairly safe place I think) so as time allows I can take a look at it. Thank you for your patience with all us Linux beginners....
And with Microsoft's latest blunder (apparently being Win 10), hopefully Linux will get a boost.
This was in my morning mail: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-10-gwx-new-guide.html
the author is credible, and entertaining... follow the links in this article for lots more.
[USER=791]@John[/USER] I do not recommend abandoning Windows completely. It is a valuable tool, it has it's place.
and there is a less obvious problem with Linux, hardware. UEFI.
none of my computers are new enough to have UEFI, the newest is about 5 years old.
It is a problem that can be solved, but it seems to take a little more effort. Thankfully many people have been successful and have written about it, search "uefi dual boot windows 10" and "uefi dual boot linux" for lots of methods.
Possible update/solution for some. In my searching on the web for solutions to the screens not coming back to life after a couple hours, I saw a few posts about people who updated their video card drivers and that worked. Their machines were now more like they should, even with the win10 virus on them. Others said that solution did Not work for them. For some others, there were completely different solutions that worked for them.
Anyway, yesterday I remembered that I had not updated my video drivers for some time. Went directly to the manufacturer web page and downloaded the latest driver for my video card. So far, so good. Have left the machine for a couple hours and the monitors come back on.
Attempting to update through "device manager" did not work. The last few times I attempted to update through the video card software, that did not work. The only way I found was to manually download the driver and install.
There are so many people who have been experiencing this issue, I honestly believe there is something wrong with the win10 code. I am unaware of this issue on previous operating systems, no matter how bad they were (remember windows millennium?).
Jim in AZ, post: 366720, member: 249 wrote: I have uninstalled every drive imaginable and read hundreds of ages of documentation and "solutions" and it still will not print with black... Thanks Microsoft!
The problem may be with the printer if it's an inkjet. If it's unused for a while, the black ink can harden under the cartridge. I've cleaned the little gizmo with rubbing alcohol several times. But the stupid little print heads are prone to sudden death as well.
HP says to print something every day or get a laser jet if it's rarely used. I just buy the cheapest one on sale when one dies and keep going.
my W7 has refused updates for several months, no big deal, for me anyway.
It still runs LDD just fine, and that is all I ever use it for.
yesterday I again looked at that little red flag done in the taskbar, it said there are 4 "dangerous problems".
One is automatic updates not enabled (not gonna happen),
another was no virus checker (don't need one, Windows can't see any of my Important data),
some other thing,
and Windows Defender needed updating.
I thought "WTF, let it "update" Defender". After several automatic reboots (with no warning), it now runs normal updates. What the heck does Defender have to do with system updates? Is Defender the Backdoor that is mandated? I have no clue.
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I am so effing tired of this crap! I am almost ready to purchase that other thing that says it runs on Linux, but I really hate to kissoff the $ investment I have in Acad (over $8,000).
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MathTeacher, post: 367772, member: 7674 wrote: The problem may be with the printer if it's an inkjet. If it's unused for a while, the black ink can harden under the cartridge. I've cleaned the little gizmo with rubbing alcohol several times. But the stupid little print heads are prone to sudden death as well.
HP says to print something every day or get a laser jet if it's rarely used. I just buy the cheapest one on sale when one dies and keep going.
I've tried three different printers...
Peter Ehlert, post: 367778, member: 60 wrote: my W7 has refused updates for several months, no big deal, for me anyway.
It still runs LDD just fine, and that is all I ever use it for.yesterday I again looked at that little red flag done in the taskbar, it said there are 4 "dangerous problems".
One is automatic updates not enabled (not gonna happen),
another was no virus checker (don't need one, Windows can't see any of my Important data),
some other thing,
and Windows Defender needed updating.
I thought "WTF, let it "update" Defender". After several automatic reboots (with no warning), it now runs normal updates. What the heck does Defender have to do with system updates? Is Defender the Backdoor that is mandated? I have no clue.begin rant
I am so effing tired of this crap! I am almost ready to purchase that other thing that says it runs on Linux, but I really hate to kissoff the $ investment I have in Acad (over $8,000).
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Defender wants to have the most updated security definitions so it can protect against new threats. Not much sense in using Defender without them...
