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Anybody have inside information on when USNO astronomical site will come back online? Itƒ??s been down for a year.

I had adapted to the USNOƒ??s ephemeris data format for solar/star positions.

I guess itƒ??s a back burner issue.

Just curious if Iƒ??m missing some news on it.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 23, 2020 9:01 am
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You could buy MICA for that data.?ÿ $30

https://www.willbell.com/almanacs/almanac_mica.htm


 
Posted : November 23, 2020 9:21 am
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This is just absolutely unbelievable and reeks of incompetence. Why couldn't they have left everything up while they developed the new system.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 23, 2020 9:53 am
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Larry Scott;?ÿ What type of data were you getting from the USNO (be specific ). Thanks and?ÿHappy Thanksgiving.

?ÿ

John Nolton


 
Posted : November 23, 2020 9:58 pm
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@bill93

?ÿ

That doesn't work either. If you "Add to Cart" it says they are closed to business.

?ÿ


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 8:50 am

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Larry, Would this be a similar format to what you want?

https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 8:54 am
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JPL Horizons is the fall back. Iƒ??ve noted that Horizon returns about 4ƒ? different than USNO, donƒ??t know why, and thst might be insignificant. and Horizon doesnƒ??t include primary navigation stars.

Ive been using USNO for years. For consistency, Iƒ??d prefer USNO. But lifeƒ??s a compromise. And USNO will come back ... in the spring, I assume.

?ÿ


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 9:06 am
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Right - no stars - forgot about that.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 9:12 am
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Posted by: @bill93

Looks like they closed near the end of October.?ÿ

For the price you used to get a CD with PC and MAC versions, and a nice book which details the instructions and examples.?ÿ Although the book was copyrighted by the publishing company, I'm assuming the program was taxpayer funded.?ÿ

Therefore I'm offering a link to the files as copied off the CD by my PC. Hope it works for you. If you need me to look up something in the manual, send me a message.

It will be a few hours before Dropbox finishes sync because I throttle the update rate - my wife needs most of our DSL bandwidth for work.?ÿ So try this maybe after Tuesday 1800Z (afternoon USA time zones).

Dropbox Logo Dropbox File (Private or Invalid)


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 9:30 am
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@bill93

ill snag that. How big is it?

The other best source UKHO Ephemeris for Land Surveyors. NP-321. But I canƒ??t seem find the 2021 edition. And UKHO only publishes on CD of DVD. Actually NP321 is a wealth of great information. I had current versions of it 2017-2018. But the US vendors I browsed donƒ??t list 2021 in their catalogs.


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 9:45 am

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Posted by: @larry-scott

How big is it?

~125 megabytes


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 9:52 am
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@bill93

I'll take it too - thanks!


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 10:00 am
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The MICA file upload is complete.?ÿ Hope it works for you.


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 11:21 am
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I have bought a number of things over the years from Willman-Bell, most recently the Astronomical Almanac for 2020. Their web page is still fully up, but it says they are closed for business. I hope there is someone to take their place with the same good stuff.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 12:52 pm
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@john-hamilton

Hey, I was just working through the lunar azimuth example in your paper!

Thanks for putting that together


 
Posted : November 24, 2020 1:06 pm

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@bill93

Easy button. I have an antique version of ICE and was expecting a primitive interface. But, this serves the purpose and not any seconds different.


 
Posted : November 26, 2020 1:03 pm
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Does MICA have Polaris??ÿ


 
Posted : November 27, 2020 7:48 am
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Posted by: @larry-scott

Polaris, 21 other bright stars, planets, ...


 
Posted : November 27, 2020 8:29 am
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MICA has not been updated with current values of Delta T. The star and planet positions should be accurate if calculations are done in TAI (International Atomic Time), which essentially is the independent variable in the equations of motion of the celestial bodies. But, looking at Bulletin A, I believe the Delta T, as of 26 Nov 2020, is 69.005 s while MICA gives it as 71.13 s. So don't work with MICA using UT1, use TAI and do the time conversion yourself.


 
Posted : November 27, 2020 12:30 pm
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I pulled what I needed from MICA, but... I still canƒ??t find RA GHA Aries?ÿ


 
Posted : December 8, 2020 11:29 am