Trimble R10 LT

We paid å£17k for full kit with TSC3 and roads. Sure the price is different in USA, but we found that the R10 LT was not such good value especially if you were looking at taking one of the upgrades eg Xfill. The eBubble is not useful to us as yet but it worked out cheaper to take it if we wanted xFill.
Only 2 differences are xFill and the eBubble as far as I am aware.

squowse, post: 354221, member: 7109 wrote: We paid å£17k for full kit with TSC3 and roads. Sure the price is different in USA, but we found that the R10 LT was not such good value especially if you were looking at taking one of the upgrades eg Xfill. The eBubble is not useful to us as yet but it worked out cheaper to take it if we wanted xFill.
Only 2 differences are xFill and the eBubble as far as I am aware.

Is that for a base and Rover I hope ???? at 24 pounds to the rand, thats puts that at R 400 000.00 for me ....I can get an R4 rover for R165 000.00

No just rover and logger. GPS equipment is still very expensive to rent here so we got "payback" in 6 months. We have a buyback at 40% in 2 years so will effectively get 18 months for free. It's nice to invest in the latest gear that will hold it's value and keep up with the new developments. I must admit when I spend my own money I am looking at 2nd hand though.

What logger would you get with the R4 for that little? The logger is å£5k in our bundle. (R120 000.00)

Does Trimble really make that much more money offering all of these n! variants? R2, R8S, R10, R10LT (never heard of it before), making my head hurt.

Reminds me somewhat of Chevy impoding because they were selling the same vehicles as a Chevy, GMC, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, ...

Wouldn't they make more in the roudabout if they sold only R10s with all options enabled for $16,000?

Plumb Bill, post: 354230, member: 226 wrote: Does Trimble really make that much more money offering all of these n! variants? R2, R8S, R10, R10LT (never heard of it before), making my head hurt.

Reminds me somewhat of Chevy impoding because they were selling the same vehicles as a Chevy, GMC, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, ...

Wouldn't they make more in the roudabout if they sold only R10s with all options enabled for $16,000?

I can see the logic in their offerings. R8s is the new modular version of the R8 - cheap and can be configured with whatever options you want, R10 is top of the range with all options enabled and the R10 LT is to give the chance of using the R10 engine with a couple of the bells and whistles missing.
Not sure about R2 I think it is a crossover that will work with android devices? Different market anyway.

squowse, post: 354236, member: 7109 wrote: I can see the logic in their offerings. R8s is the new modular version of the R8 - cheap and can be configured with whatever options you want, R10 is top of the range with all options enabled and the R10 LT is to give the chance of using the R10 engine with a couple of the bells and whistles missing.
Not sure about R2 I think it is a crossover that will work with android devices? Different market anyway.

They will be comparing prices with Leica quite closely I imagine.

squowse, post: 354237, member: 7109 wrote:

Sure, didn't mean to insinuate that they're the only ones to do this...just wondering if this actually benefits the bottom line once you subtract the overhead required to support so many different receivers with different options.

squowse, post: 354237, member: 7109 wrote:

Sure, didn't mean to insinuate that they're the only ones to do this...just wondering if this actually benefits the bottom line once you subtract the overhead required to support so many different receivers with different options.

squowse, post: 354236, member: 7109 wrote: I can see the logic in their offerings. R8s is the new modular version of the R8 - cheap and can be configured with whatever options you want, R10 is top of the range with all options enabled and the R10 LT is to give the chance of using the R10 engine with a couple of the bells and whistles missing.
Not sure about R2 I think it is a crossover that will work with android devices? Different market anyway.

Sure, didn't mean to insinuate that they're the only ones to do this...just wondering if this actually benefits the bottom line once you subtract the overhead required to support so many different receivers with different options.

Also, those that were about to spend $12k for a VRS unit may be happy to pay a little more for the more complete unit, and those willing to pay $25k for the full-fledged R10 may buy even more of them at a lower price.

I'm sure they looked at the numbers six ways from Sunday, but it seems unnecessarily saturated.

Plumb Bill, post: 354249, member: 226 wrote: Sure, didn't mean to insinuate that they're the only ones to do this...just wondering if this actually benefits the bottom line once you subtract the overhead required to support so many different receivers with different options.

Yes they had R4, R6 and R8 before and I could never really work out the fundamental differences between them. They each had lots of options and models.

Prices will only be going down on GPS units until they are the size of a phone with mm accuracy on a "paid with ads" platform!

R2 is the first survey grade unit that doesn't require a Trimble data collector, it's made to Bluetooth to any device and communicates via NMEA. It can be purchased as either mapping grade or survey grade, the survey grade unit works with Access.

That R10 is 2.4 times the cost of an R4...same data collector, same access software, I reckon my productivity may increase by 5 to 10 % using an R10 over an R4, not a strong financial argument to upgrade is there really ?

pdop 1.0, post: 354417, member: 459 wrote: That R10 is 2.4 times the cost of an R4...same data collector, same access software, I reckon my productivity may increase by 5 to 10 % using an R10 over an R4, not a strong financial argument to upgrade is there really ?

You must be benefiting from lower prices in your country. I can't buy a new TSC3 (with roads) and receiver for anything close to that. Or even any new receiver and logger from any manufacturer for that matter. (Spectra dealer did offer us one for close to that).

But yeah the R10 is a bit of a luxury. I am hoping to buy them from the company at the end of 2 years and I would be paying about the same as the price you quoted. 🙂

If I did get a 10% increase in productivity then it would in theory be well worth it. (10% of engineers salary times 2 years). I'm not expecting that though, just hoping for reliability.

I just purchased a new R2 with all the options and a Slate controller. $13,000 for the R2 and $3,500 for the Slate with Access general survey. The R2 can function as an RTK rover using VRS or radio. Using the Trimble DL App for Android, the R2 can collect static data. As mentioned previously, using the Trimble GNSS Status App, the R2 can connect to iOS and Andriod devices to override the internal device GPS. You can connect to VRS networks using that app also, to provide survey grade accuracy using other collector apps. The Slate controller can only perform GNSS surveys and only connect to the R2, R4, and R8S.

andrewm, post: 354486, member: 10888 wrote: I just purchased a new R2 with all the options and a Slate controller. $13,000 for the R2 and $3,500 for the Slate with Access general survey. The R2 can function as an RTK rover using VRS or radio. Using the Trimble DL App for Android, the R2 can collect static data. As mentioned previously, using the Trimble GNSS Status App, the R2 can connect to iOS and Andriod devices to override the internal device GPS. You can connect to VRS networks using that app also, to provide survey grade accuracy using other collector apps. The Slate controller can only perform GNSS surveys and only connect to the R2, R4, and R8S.

How's that setup working for you?

Let me preface my answer with I'm not a surveyor. I'm a civil engineer and GIS professional. I'm fairly new to survey grade GPS. With that said, I've been very pleased so far with the R2/Slate setup. I've only used it with VRS so far, and my accuracy needs probably aren't as great as most of you here. No boundary surveys or detailed site layouts. It has worked great so far. Very impressed with the battery life. All day VRS surveying on two batteries in the R2 and the external battery for the Slate. Could've easily done 10-12 hours. Just tried the static collection with the Trimble DL App today. Haven't processed it yet. Let me know if you have specific questions.