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Trimble R-10, model 1 vs model 2. Did I make a mistake buying a model 1?

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I bought an R10-1 a couple years ago after hearing all the hype about using it under tree canopy, but slowly realized it wasn't any better than my old Topcon Hiper receiver, other than seeing more satellites. I don't use a base station, only Florida's DOT network (FPRN), but I know other guys who are running R12i's on the same FPRN network and it works great in the tree canopy. I know the R12i is a better receiver, but is this behavior typical for an R10-1 or could I be doing something wrong??ÿ

I noticed in the web interface for the R10-1 that all the E5/L5 bands are unchecked by default (and they uncheck themselves everytime the receiver is rebooted), but enabling it doesn't seem to make any difference. I'm on the latest 4.8 firmware as well. I use Survey Pro while the other R12i guys use Access, so I'm not sure if that accounts for any improvements or not.

Posted : April 11, 2022 8:11 pm

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I saw this the other day while trying to troubleshoot my own gps issues. It could be survey pro. Maybe you could try your R10 with a different collecor running access and see if that helps

https://support.smartnetna.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009359947-GNSS-Correction-Compatibility

Posted : April 11, 2022 8:24 pm

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An excellent article here?ÿ

https://www.xyht.com/gnsslocation-tech/r12explained/

about the differences R10, R10-2, R12

In short, the R10-2 and R12 are much better under canopy than a plain jane R10?ÿ

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Posted : April 11, 2022 8:58 pm

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The R10-2's and the R12's are identical hardware.?ÿ The difference is the software engine.?ÿ Fortunately the R10-2's could be upgraded to the R12 engine and it made a huge difference.?ÿ The R10-2 was incredible in canopy. The R10-2 upgraded to the R12 engine is way better.

Posted : April 11, 2022 9:15 pm

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My R-10 does great in the canopy that I see, although, I'm not surveying in the eastern jungles.?ÿ

My R-8's got through large ponderosa pine tree areas this week. I do believe my new DC is helpful, I would Imagine using a better DC and program would make a difference.

It's worth a try, however, the R12's are supposed to be the bomb in canopy.?ÿ

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Posted : April 12, 2022 8:29 am

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Posted by: @mightymoe

My R-10 does great in the canopy that I see, although, I'm not surveying in the eastern jungles.?ÿ

My R-8's got through large ponderosa pine tree areas this week. I do believe my new DC is helpful, I would Imagine using a better DC and program would make a difference.

It's worth a try, however, the R12's are supposed to be the bomb in canopy.?ÿ

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If your R10-1 is getting corrections from a Galileo base, it??s the Galileo satellites that are most useful since they all have a stronger L5 like signal, but the R10-1 is slow in the woods compared to the R12. R12 has a faster CPU and better ability to filter out extraneous signals.

and no, a new data collector is not helping your GNSS use because all GNSS computations are happening in the receiver, not in your collector.

Posted : April 16, 2022 6:28 pm