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Trading Baguettes for Dim Sum? Planned BeiDou Launches.

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We've been waiting for Galileo for over a decade now, and it appears as though the next new kid on the Block will be BeiDou:

http://gpsworld.com/beidou-launch-schedule-shared/

A plethora of new signals coming even before 2019 (I know they need validation, but...).

Is anyone getting excited about BeiDou?

Galileo is still going to be slow-going, not to mention the implementation in receivers may be even slower. I read a comment somewhere in my recent research that developers are slow to implement because they're not sure what the licensing structure will look like. Remember, Galileo is supposed to have a paid-access scheme to some of the signals.

Needing RTK in the woods here...is already slowly getting better - and is way better than it used to be - but still has a lot of room to improve.


 
Posted : September 19, 2017 10:41 am
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I guess .. At this rate equipment (antennas and collectors) are just going to keep getting cheaper, but software upgrades and subscriptions are going to be a lunch-eater ??

When is it just going to be cheaper and easier to break out a total station and run the lines on the ground.


 
Posted : September 19, 2017 6:17 pm
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R.J. Schneider, post: 447481, member: 409 wrote: When is it just going to be cheaper and easier to break out a total station and run the lines on the ground.

In my rural ag environment the answer is: Never.

Every business/workflow designed to improve efficiency over the last 40 years has centered on less man hours. RTK is easy measuring and I cannot imagine myself ever going back and being competitive.

Think about it. Guys were buying these systems for 40 to 60k in the 90s and making money with them.

Steve


 
Posted : September 20, 2017 8:48 am
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I disagree. It depends on the exact situation. I can be more profitable with the total station than the GPS on about 50 percent of my rural jobs.


 
Posted : September 20, 2017 11:24 am
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For over 2 decades, [most] all of my work was GPS only. Big projects, out in the open desert.

However, the last 4-5 years, EVERY project REQUIRED BOTH GNSS & Total Station observations. Although the majority of the Corners could be positioned with GNSS, there were (quite) a few that required "GPS-Pairs" and humping a Total Station into the area. This often meant a full day (2 guys) to tie ONE or two Corners, but that's the breaks.

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Posted : September 20, 2017 12:13 pm

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sjc1989, post: 447530, member: 6718 wrote: In my rural ag environment the answer is: Never.

counter: We have trees .. lots of them


 
Posted : September 20, 2017 5:03 pm
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R.J. Schneider, post: 447481, member: 409 wrote: When is it just going to be cheaper and easier to break out a total station and run the lines on the ground.

nm. Found out you can write off nearly 0.5MM / year in equipment expenses. unbelievable.


 
Posted : September 21, 2017 3:30 pm
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We updated the FW on our Trimble BD970 based RTK earlier this year and upgraded to SurvCE 5 to get the RTCM V3.2 so now have GPS, GLONASS and BeiDou running. Down this way (SW Pacific), this is what we get in RTK in open sky (typically 4 BeiDou out of the 19 "fix"):


 
Posted : September 24, 2017 6:21 pm
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BTW in those photos I am standing next to the base but the latency is sitting on 2 seconds. I'm fairly sure that prior to the BeiDou upgrades (receiver FW and SurvCE software) the latency would have been 1. Has anyone else experienced this and/or know if it is an issue?


 
Posted : September 25, 2017 1:29 pm