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Does anyone know the setting to connect to nys cors for rtk surveying. Im using a cs15 with viva lt. Trying to create a new set up, but realive its different than the trimble i have currently setup. I have the data collector connected to interent and the gs receiver. I tried multiple settings and when i start the stream it says connected to ntrip caster but the lightning bolt does not blink to receive corrections.

Any ides?

 
Posted : 27/01/2015 8:51 am
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I do not know how the NYDOT has there system setup but if your are connecting to the NTRP caster everything should be fine except maybe the mount point and network type you have the system set to when connecting. For example, if they are using an NTRIP caster they should have different correction messages set up on different mount points on the NTRIP caster. So the issue could be that you have selected a mount point to receive Leica corrections in your settings but the actually mount point chosen on the NTRIP caster setting is set to RTCM version 3. So the connection to the server would be sucessful but the rover is not receiving the correct message type and would not process data from the network. Also there is a setting for the type of network you are using - MAX, Nearest, VRS, etc.

So the items that need to be check are the mount point being select from the NTRIIP caster, what RTK correction message is set in SmartWorx, and what type of network is set in SmartWorx.

The easiest way to do this is to build an RTK profile for your needed settings. That way if you needed to change your connection type or just reload the RTK profile to reset the collector's communications you would just need to load the RTK profile you needed at the time. The best example would be to have an RTK profile for the network and if you also work with UHF radios you could have a RTK profile for setting the radio as the COM device. These are simple.

Let me know if you have the information for the NYDOT network or if you need to know about the RTK profile options. This will be an easy fix once we get the info on the NYDOT network mount point setup.

 
Posted : 27/01/2015 12:21 pm
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Correct i know how to get to the settings and build the source table. Should it be checked receice rtk. Rtk data format leica leica 4g rtcmv3 cmr/cmr+. Next page sensor auto detect antena at base auto detect. Next page use rtk is checked network imax nearest fkp vrs max. Next page use predition checked

 
Posted : 27/01/2015 1:41 pm
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The way I am showing this is using the creation of an RTK profile. This is the best way to go instead of using the All Other Connection path. The RTK profile can be created by main menu - choose Instrument - then choose GPS Settings - The RTK Rover Wizard. You can create a new profile - say call this one NYDOT Max or whatever you want. The first half of the wizard just describes the internet description. You should use the same settings you already have for your internet connection. Then you will create a server. You have all of the information because you stated that you do connect to the server successfully. So this is where I stat explain the settings....

I looked up the NYDOT maount point listing...

From what I am seeing I would use the mount point - GG_RTCM_MAX. You can utilize MAX or Nearest which should be the best for you. You do not need to use IMAX because that is for systems prior to System1200 or Viva. So you have the needed information for the server connection. I have placed question marks in the server name (can be called anything you want), IP Address (use whatever IP address or web address you were using prior), The port should be set to 8080 according to the mount point listing from the NYDOT website. Use the user name and password you have been using in the NTRIP information....

In the next screen slect choose a mount point from the source table... when you select Next to go to the next page the source table listing the mount points will be load over the internet....

Select the mount point - GG_RTCM_MAX

Next make sure the network type is MAX and that you check to send the GGA message... this GGA message sends your lat and long back to the server

Finally make sure the RTK data format is set to RTCM ver 3

The next screens will allow you to test the connections.

If you are testing you will need to be connected to the receiver so that you have a position. You must send back your current lat and long to the server before you will get corrections from the server. The network needs to know where you are located so that it can choose the needed reference stations for MAX or Nearest network types.

 
Posted : 27/01/2015 3:39 pm
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Wow. That was great. Set up a new profile. Took it out in the snow right now. Once it got the position to send back it got fixed in 5 seconds. Youre the best.

Heres another challenge. How do you load the driver for a gs08plus on viva. Not viva lt. That data collector is the one you got working right now. Ive got another data collector that i use for the robot and gs12 but would like to get this rover loaded in there in case the other goes down. Theres no gs08 or gs08 plus in list. Both collectors are running 5.05. I went to my leica world under the gs08 receiver and downloaded a file i thought was the driver. Put in sd card under system folder. It finds it but doesnt load.

So big question can it be done or can only work under viva lt?

 
Posted : 27/01/2015 4:25 pm
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The short answer is that only a CS10 controller can work with a GS08 or GS08 Plus and then only with SmartWorx Lite (Viva LT).

The product basket is setup so that the GS08 and GS08 plus are basically network rovers. Yes you can buy a UHF radio cap for the CS10 controller and work from a base with a UHF radio but the price gets to where it is the same as say the GS14 which has the integrated UHF radio.

The way the system is setup is that there are flags set in the system and when you connect to the different hardware these flags are read and allow different combination to connect or not connect. So, again, the GS08 and GS08 plus will only connect with a CS10 controller and only running the Vive Lite (Viva LT).

That is the way it has been set up for the product baskets. I think I remember that there was going to be a license key available at one time to allow a CS15 to connect with a GS08 or GS08 plus. I have never seen it on the price list.

 
Posted : 27/01/2015 4:39 pm
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The gs08 plus we have is currently setup with the cs15 running viva lt. Could the same license key be used on different collector. I told them i didnt think so when we were in field trying to connect them. Maybe well have to get a cs10 as a backup. I really like the leica hardware. Just wish the robot was lighter. Ive been in the woods for too many days lately.

 
Posted : 27/01/2015 5:01 pm
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VIVA simulator screen shots

Hey Mark,
Nice job on the explanation.
Did you get those screen shots using the VIVA simulator? Is there a way to add programs to the simulator (i.e. Sets of Angles, etc.). I'm doing some PowerPoint slides for in-house training but the simulator is fairly limited.
Thanks and regards,
Mike

 
Posted : 27/01/2015 9:10 pm
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I doubt the license could be transferred. We have never done it before on a unit. Each license key is generated for the specific serial number of the piece of hardware (controller, receiver, total station). So in reality you would need a brand new key generated for the other controller. Leica would have no way to permanently remove the existing license on the CS15.

I know what you mean about the robots. They are not really that heavy (TS15 12.2 pounds with a battery) but just carrying it in the case is awkward if you are navigating any change in elevation and through the woods. I still prefer using the hard case and there are backpack straps for the Leica case but it is not that comfortable. Plus I always said you had to be about 1/2 pack mule when surveying... carrying tripod, instrument, tool belt probably a sack of stakes, nails and flagging, and a brush hook, metal locator... no problem. We usually use brush hooks down here instead of machetes.

 
Posted : 28/01/2015 7:57 am
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VIVA simulator screen shots

Mike,

Yes I did use the current CS Controller simulator. The simulator should install with all of the applications. Sets of Angles should be installed automatically. If you have not seen already... there is a way to input TPS data into the simulator to create training screen captures. You would probably need an actual set of data from Sets of Angles use in the field to make a good group of images for slides. When I am trying to make up some guides I usually use easy numbers when inputting fake data... i.e. Horizontal angle of 180° and then I know the Face 2 (inverted) value would be zero and all zenith angles are usually 90°. Not very realistic but it usually gets the points across.

Sometimes I just do a screen capture and use the software I have to create the text for the fields. This helps sometimes. I use SnagIt by Techsmith.

Let me know if you have not seen the functionality of being able to input TPS data in manually. I can do a post or send you an email on how to do it. Simple procedure if you have not seen it.

 
Posted : 28/01/2015 8:04 am