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Intuicom, Satelline, or Pacific Crest?

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i-ben-havin
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Trying to decide on best radio system. Would appreciate recommendations.

Base = Leica ATX1230+GNSS with GPS, Glonass, Galileo & L5 activated
Rover = Leica GS15 with GPS, Glonass, Galileo & L5 (prefer this for rover due to better controller)

Distance will mostly be under 1/2 mile.

Separately, each of them run as rovers off of the Florida DOT system, but currently FDOT only provides corrections using GPS & Glonass signals. In addition, I am on the fringe of the FDOT network, and performance leaves much to be desired with such long baselines. I am hopeful for better performance when adding Galileo and L5 together with the much shorter baselines with the base/rover setup. I will upgrade to Compass/Beidou once I can find out about the ATX1230+GNSS ability. My RX1250 controller lists "COMPASS" as ready, and of course the GS15 allows a "Beidou" upgrade.

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Posted : January 25, 2015 2:16 pm
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ArWestcom.com


 
Posted : January 25, 2015 2:37 pm
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> ArWestcom.com

Also known as Javad. I've been using their 35W radio, and am pretty happy with it. It's the only high-power UHF radio I've used, so I can't offer any comparisons.


 
Posted : January 25, 2015 11:29 pm
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Personally I'd go with Satel, especially with a Leica system - that's what they sell (at least around here).

We were having a lot of radio issues here with the Pacific Crests so I demoed a Satel radio. Even though we run Trimble gear and therefore had to compromise one or two settings, it worked like a champ - the range was great, and in the month we field tested it we never had a single problem.


 
Posted : January 26, 2015 8:12 am
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Thanks everyone

Appreciate the responses. I'll probably go with the Leica/Satel product line due to everything coming from Leica, and ease of configs.
Thanks,
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Posted : January 26, 2015 8:51 am

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Radio Recommendations

With the type of equipment you are running i would recommend Intuicom.

Because Intuicoms run spread spectrum, you don't need an FCC license and it is impossible to be "stepped on"

Also they have a MUCH larger bandwidth. This will make sure you are receiving ALL of the message through RTCM/Leica 4G. When Running a 12.5kW ADL with GPS+GLONASS you have to slow down the message rate.

I also have an Intuicom Base + 3 Repeaters running at one of my clients for the past 10 Years. They have not restarted the system yet and has never failed... I have only had 1 rover radio brick in my history with Intuicom, and it was fixable.

If you are only working 1/2 mile radius Intuicom is the way to go. Also if i was in your position i would look into an RTK Bridge for my base. This would open up tons of options in the future.


 
Posted : January 26, 2015 9:42 am
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Thanks Eric,
I had run spread spectrum on Trimble 5800 several years ago, and I recall being very pleased with it. Before that, and since, I have only used Pacific Crest. I'll have to look a little closer at that one.


 
Posted : January 26, 2015 11:05 pm
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Radio Recommendations

Spread spectrum radios are great for short distances and fixed sites, because they're low power consumption and aren't subject to interference. However, they're literally line of sight - think robotic total station as far as range and LOS requirements. The added bandwidth is only important because you end up needing (sometimes multiple)repeaters. The other nice thing about spread spectrum at a fixed installation - think open pit mine - is that the repeaters operate in parallel (unlike UHF repeaters, which are typically serial). That means you can go anywhere on site and pick up any one or more repeater(s) without interference.

Personally, I want to be able to reliably get 10,000' - 15,000' off a single radio without need for repeaters, and this means UHF.


 
Posted : January 27, 2015 7:41 am