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brad-ott
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Does this really work?

(photos borrowed from the interweb)


 
Posted : July 22, 2021 9:39 am
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Standard survey reply in 3...2...1...

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"It depends."

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(Sorry.)


 
Posted : July 22, 2021 9:48 am
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@rover83?ÿ

Ha!

Beat me to it

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Posted : July 22, 2021 9:49 am
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As to the tilt feature itself, yes, it works. But, that fixed rod antenna is pretty close to a wall blocking half the satellites, so kind of iffy results. In the bottom photo, he could have moved around so the rod was at 135 degrees horizontally from the walls, giving him 270 degrees of access to the sky.


 
Posted : July 22, 2021 9:56 am
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Yes it works, in line with GNSS observation accuracy in general.


 
Posted : July 22, 2021 10:34 am

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With the full GNSS constellation in play and even losing half the potential satellites may leave you only picking up a dozen or so. So some degradation of the best potential accuracy, but still a plenty good position for a building wall shot.?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : July 22, 2021 11:56 am
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I suspect it doesn't work so well if the building corner is an internal return, giving you less than 90 deg. of sky.

Modern buildings not so bad, old buildings where the sides might not be at right angles to each other could be a nightmare as you won't know if its the building that is skew or just a bad reading. If in doubt also measure each wall with a tape - works wonders when problem solving and a lot cheaper than a return visit (unless all the GPs points are rubbish!).


 
Posted : July 23, 2021 12:57 pm
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Yes, but not quite to same accuracy as GNSS alone IMO. I have a Leica GS18i and have tested in open areas so obstructions were not a factor and you do loose a bit of accuracy but depending on what you need may be perfectly fine.

Bigger issue might be multipath and signal blockage, especially if you aren't using 4+ constellations.

I probably would NOT buy a new receiver that didn't have the IMU tilt feature, it is valuable enough to be a good tool in right situation.

I bought the Leica Imaging version for same reason, again, it is going to not be quite static GNSS accuracy, BUT for the "minimal" extra cost, there are situations (especially safety situations) where it is invaluable.

Just don't abuse the features!!!!

SHG


 
Posted : July 23, 2021 1:21 pm