In New York at Alfred State, if you graduate with a BS in surveying, your four years of school counts as 6 years towrd your require time of 8 years to sit for the exam. Leaving only two years to get all the hands on experience to get your license. Not sure how this can be, keeping the best interest of the public in mind.
"Additionally, graduates of the BS program will receive six years of credit toward the statutory time for licensure as a Professional Engineer in New York State. The BS graduates are eligible to take the first part of the NCEES licensing exam for Professional Engineer in the fall following their graduation."
Someone is giving you some incorrect information. For engineering or land surveying, it is a BS Degree and four years of "appropriate" experience to get admitted to the exam. NYS Education Law, Article 145 section 7206 (engineering) and 7206-a (surveying).
> In New York at Alfred State, if you graduate with a BS in surveying, your four years of school counts as 6 years towrd your require time of 8 years to sit for the exam. Leaving only two years to get all the hands on experience to get your license. Not sure how this can be, keeping the best interest of the public in mind.
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> "Additionally, graduates of the BS program will receive six years of credit toward the statutory time for licensure as a Professional Engineer in New York State. The BS graduates are eligible to take the first part of the NCEES licensing exam for Professional Engineer in the fall following their graduation."
Where did you get that from, Twitter???
§7206-a. Requirements for a license as a professional land surveyor.
To qualify for a license as a professional land surveyor, an applicant shall fulfill the following requirements:
Application: file an application with the department;
Education: have received an education, including a bachelor's or higher degree based on a program in land surveying, in accordance with the commissioner's regulations;
Experience: (a) If the applicant has a bachelor's or higher degree, have at least four years in work satisfactory to the board, provided that the board may accept study beyond the bachelor's degree in partial fulfillment of this requirement; or (b) If the applicant has an associate's degree, have at least six years in work satisfactory to the board provided that the board may accept study beyond the associate's degree in partial fulfillment of this requirement;
Examination: pass an examination satisfactory to the board and in accordance with the commissioner's regulations;
Age: be at least twenty-one years of age;
Citizenship or immigration status: be a United States citizen or an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States;
Character: be of good moral character as determined by the department; and
Fees: pay a fee of two hundred twenty dollars to the department for admission to a department conducted examination and for an initial license, a fee of one hundred fifteen dollars for each reexamination, a fee of one hundred thirty-five dollars for an initial license for persons not requiring admission to department conducted examination, and a fee of two hundred ten dollars for each triennial registration period.
In lieu of the degree and experience requirements specified in subparagraphs (2) and (3) of subdivision one of this section, eight years of practical experience in work satisfactory to the board may be accepted, provided that each full year of college study in engineering or land surveying satisfactory to the department may at the discretion of the board be accepted in lieu of one year of the required eight years of experience.
For an identification card as an "intern land surveyor", an applicant shall fulfill the requirements of subdivision one of this section, except those in subparagraphs (3) and (5), provided that admission to the examination may be given when the applicant is within twenty credits of the completion of the requirements for the bachelor's or higher degree as prescribed in subparagraph (2) of subdivision one, or has completed the practical experience requirement of subdivision two of this section. The fee for examination and identification card as an "intern land surveyor" shall be seventy dollars and the fee for each reexamination shall be seventy dollars.
> "Additionally, graduates of the BS program will receive six years of credit toward the statutory time for licensure as a Professional Engineer in New York State. The BS graduates are eligible to take the first part of the NCEES licensing exam for Professional Engineer in the fall following their graduation."
SWAG:
Engineering license requirements:
2.In lieu of the degree and experience requirements specified in subparagraphs (2) and (3) of subdivision one of this section, twelve years of practical experience in work satisfactory to the board may be accepted, provided that each full year of college study in engineering satisfactory to the department may at the discretion of the board be accepted in lieu of two years of the required twelve years of experience.
A BS in engineering will count as 8 years of experience leaving 4 before sitting for the PE; a BS in surveying will count as 6 years experience leaving 6 before you can sit for the PE. It's common for some states to allow candidates with an engineering technology degree to sit for the PE with additional experience over candidates with an engineering degree
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You're right. Here's the kicker you'll 4 years toward a Surveying License and 6 years towards a PE????
Additionally, graduates of the BS program will receive six years of credit toward the statutory time for licensure as a Professional Engineer in New York State. The BS graduates are eligible to take the first part of the NCEES licensing exam for Professional Engineer in the fall following their graduation.
The Surveying program is a Civil Technology Program, not Civil Engineering. Maybe they mean you can sit for the PE with an additional 6 years.
Ok I missed that it was for engineering, not surveying.
That's good!!!
thanks
The key wording is "may count" at the discretion of the Board. No guarantees. It also leaves four years of the twelve necessary under that method. The key is that if you have a BS in engineering or Lands Surveying you do not need to use the alternative method of 12 years experience. Either way, you still need four years of applicable experience beyond the degree to be admitted.
Correction, actually six more years if they are referring to the 12 year experience method, not four as I stated in the previous comment. 4 would be if they received two years for each year of the four year program.
That's correct. Surveying Engineering BS (Alfred State) will get you 4 of eight toward LS, and 6 of 12 toward PE. Civil Engineering BS will get you (I think) 3 of eight toward LS, and 8 of 12 toward PE. Surveying AAS will get you 2 of eight toward LS, Civil Engineering AAS will get you 4 of 12 toward PE.
They must be ABET, other approved programs may get you some but not as much as ABET approved. So far it does not matter in NY if it's Tech. or science if I remember correctly. Masters or Phd tack on another year. If I recall, only way to get there with 2 years experience is with a phd, could be wrong.
I once checked with the board and I recall a Msc in Surveying will get you 5 of 8