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(@paden-cash)
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I use to get all the PDHs (we call them CEUs around here) that I needed for my license renewal from our annual convention.?ÿ After about twenty-five of those in a row I bored with the same old hum-drum (and the chow).?ÿ For a few years I attempted to speak on certain subjects at the convention...(you get double hours) but I didn't like that either.?ÿ If you're sitting in the audience you can at least sneak out early.?ÿ That's harder to do if you're the one making noise at the podium.?ÿ So some years back, 6 or 7, I started getting my hours with what was available on-line.?ÿ The on-line continuing education industry has really made leaps and bounds over the years.?ÿ

Now I've seen some crummy ones.?ÿ I remember one that wouldn't load correctly and constantly locked up my CPU.?ÿ I called the guy so many times he finally just emailed me my certificates and never really got it to work right.?ÿ Which is what I was really after, but I hate to just 'buy' numbers.

And I've seen a few that were labelled for surveyors but fell short of really teaching me anything.?ÿ While I am not on fire for mandatory studying I would like to get something out spending my money without it seeming like a racket.

This year I found McKissock Learning?ÿhad a package that was a few bucks cheaper than some so I tried it out.?ÿ I am surprised at the info provided in their courses.?ÿ I have completed 2 this afternoon;?ÿ Seized Lands: Eminent Domain & Adverse Possession and Prescriptive Easements.?ÿ In my opinion these folks have put together a stable, friendly and informative platform with which to get your hours leisurely at home.?ÿ They're in depth enough to keep your interest and the multiple choice graded quizzes will keep you paying attention.

I believe I actually found an on-line way to enjoy learning something new.?ÿ And that's something for an old dog like myself.?ÿ If anybody is in need of a few PDHs I would recommend them.?ÿ I was not disappointed in the least.

 
Posted : 07/02/2020 1:55 pm
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Why didn't you post this yesterday? I just ordered two sessions from an online provider yesterday. I looked at McKissock and almost pulled the trigger but went with another provider. I have briefly opened them but no serious studying. The information is just PDF and a PDF of a powerpoint. No videos and no interactive quizzes. I will probably go with McKissock next time and see what they are like.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : 07/02/2020 2:04 pm
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This week I finished the last of my credits that I needed for my CFedS renewal. They are typically ?ÿa downloaded pdf of the slides from a presentation made somewhere, but have no audio. Then you take an online quiz. I learned a few things but it would definitely have been a better experience to HEAR the presentation along with the slides. ?ÿ ?ÿ
?ÿ ?ÿState conference is in Great Falls in 11 days and Iƒ??ll be going to that to finish out everything I need for my state renewal this summer. Lucas will be presenting, and I havenƒ??t heard him before. I laid out on vacation last year and didnƒ??t attend so I have a lot of catching up to do.

 
Posted : 07/02/2020 2:48 pm
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@rankin_file

Lucas is good and he always ruffles some feathers in the crowd. 

 

 
Posted : 07/02/2020 2:49 pm
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Lucas was in Oregon a couple years ago. Iƒ??m surprised you couldnƒ??t hear him in Montana. He is that loud.

 
Posted : 07/02/2020 2:57 pm
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Let me summarize the law of boundaries for you:

Thou shalt honor thy Deed with all thy heart and mind, this is the first and great commandment and the second is like unto it:

Thou shalt honor those boundaries already established upon the ground.

on these two commandments hang all the law of boundaries.

 
Posted : 07/02/2020 3:31 pm
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We had Lucas Thursday and Friday this past week. He is loud. Being a lawyer and a surveyor he has a different approach on land surveying. I'm not sure on his following meandering fence lines as being the boundary. If they were built as the boundary that's one thing. But if built as a fence of convince that's another thing. Made me wonder that following some surveyors if they haven't read Lucas, were just lazy, or didn't know better. The DOT pays for the hours, so it's just fine with me. For the most part he'll keep you awake.

?ÿ

 
Posted : 08/02/2020 9:55 am
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My state has a habit of cutting some courses in half. Meaning a 4 credit class on line becomes 2. So 500 dollars turns into 1000.

If you go through the society and pay 1000, you get the 4 credits per class.

Funny how that works out

 
Posted : 08/02/2020 4:01 pm
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@dave-karoly

For mineral surveys, the order is switched per Congressional Act of April 28, 1904.  ???? 

 

 
Posted : 09/02/2020 9:28 am
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Has anyone used these people?

https://ez-pdh.com/product-category/package-deals/land-surveying-packages/

They offer complete CE course requirements for $90 or less depending on your state.

It's $80 for FL and $60 for GA. Or is this one of those "too good to be true" deals? ?????ÿ

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Posted : 09/02/2020 10:01 am
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I like McKissock.?ÿ PDH Academy and Survey PDU have come in handy too.

 
Posted : 10/02/2020 6:14 am
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Deeds vs boundaries.

True professionals look intensively at both, and build a synthesized product.

Lazy and unprofessional surveyors only look at one. Or the other. Thus, they don't know both sides of the equation.

True professionals always look at, and consider both sides of everything.

If you will apply what I said, every time, you will LEARN stuff from every survey.

If you learn from every survey, you will become more professional with each job.

If you don't, you will become less and less professional, until you are blindly attacking and fighting with stuff you failed to consider, in your decision process.

You can quote this. In my words, or yours.

N

 
Posted : 10/02/2020 7:22 am
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@jules-j

I liked his presentation, but he was weak when it came to western states. He said to throw out the manual, but when your state is 77% "owned" by the feds that isn't a real option.

So........learn what you will, but always look at the imperial involvement when you set a corner and understand they don't recognize, or seldom recognize monuments set outside of math solutions (unless they set them).

 

 
Posted : 10/02/2020 7:41 am
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@jflamm

I have also used McKissock the last 2 times.?ÿ Looks like about the best value for the money at the time.

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WIll look at the https://ez-pdh.com/ next time too.

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Posted : 10/02/2020 8:24 am
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@toivo1037

I like their renewal packages for specific states that they have put together.  I use that for two of the states I don't reside in but they don't have anything for my home state so that's when I go fishing around in the other sites andor attend conferences.

 

 
Posted : 10/02/2020 9:43 am
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