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spledeus
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I need to learn to say no. I have asked the wife to give me lessons.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 6:53 am
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Great idea. Consulting an expert is always a good idea.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 7:32 am
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Another method is to regress back to your toddler years and get in touch with the 'no' s you used for vegetables, baths, bedtimes etc.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 7:39 am
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spledeus, post: 456112, member: 3579 wrote: I need to learn to say no. I have asked the wife to give me lessons.

come on, don't leave us hanging. How did she respond?


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 8:24 am
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Tom Adams, post: 456133, member: 7285 wrote: come on, don't leave us hanging. How did she respond?

She said yes.

My problem is I cannot say no at work. I had a fellow come in with a problem. A different surveyor prepared the site plan and an engineer got the plan approved through zoning, conservation and health. Stating that there are problems with the plans is an understatement and the surveyor went on an extended vacation.

I said, we are busy, but sure, we can perform the layout work based on a site plan that might have been done in CAD but we don't have the CAD. Oh, it's missing a benchmark, well, we will use the existing first floor and tie it back in. Oh, they never measured the top of the septic and the proposed garage slab will result in insufficient coverage over the system? Huh, they never computed the building height of the existing or the proposed and it won't comply without regrading?

So when I tell all of the surveyors they should make more than the engineers because you fix their mistakes, I speak from experience. I have now spent several hours redesigning the site to make it comply with the regulations when all I signed up for was a simple layout of a foundation...

I need to learn to say no.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 8:47 am

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^^good response in this case^^
I quit using No as my first response, it slows things down a bit but it doesn't help in the end.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 8:49 am
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And once you learn that "NO" word and how to use it, please come here to my company and teach the sales "team" how to use that word.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 8:50 am
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@spledeus Wow there was a story behind that. I though you were making a joke. I was expecting her to have said "no".
It is understandably hard to say no to the aspect of more income and helping someone out in a pinch. I think most of us can relate.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 9:06 am
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spledeus, post: 456135, member: 3579 wrote: My problem is I cannot say no at work.

If you are in business for yourself look at how much $ you can make with the aforementioned request. If it is going to be more of a pain in the ass than it's worth tell them you can't handle any more work currently or just say no thank you. Otherwise yer gonna go broke. 😎


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 9:08 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 456142, member: 379 wrote: If you are in business for yourself look at how much $ you can make with the aforementioned request. If it is going to be more of a pain in the ass than it's worth tell them you can't handle any more work currently or just say no thank you. Otherwise yer gonna go broke. 😎

No. It means I get to work into the late evening and charge for every second of thought on the project.

Thank you for helping me practice saying No.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 9:14 am

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I was forced to use the word very recently. It was very liberating at the time. Some 'jobs' are nothing but trouble.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 9:15 am
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Wife: I want you to get a side job and work more.
Me: No, this I will not do.

Now back to wallpaper removing LOL. Mrs. Fowler (former owner of this house) really loved wallpaper, 3 layers in the breakfast nook, ugly stuff, it's coming down though.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 9:30 am
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Watch some Nancy Reagan "Just say No!" videos from the 80's.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 9:59 am
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Back in about 1986, Peter Henning a well respected and driven land developer invited me to lunch. We talked about his projects and my job and its workload. That day he taught me that saying no to him and other clients/projects is a virtue that allows me to enjoy my family more, appreciate my job status and most importantly gains respect from my clients. To this day, and it happens more than I should expect, when I say no to a client, I usually give them an alternate professional reference and glance to the sky and tell Peter thanks.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 10:23 am
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"No" really means "Yes" nowadays. Just ask your elected representative...


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 11:43 am

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paden cash, post: 456175, member: 20 wrote: "No" really means "Yes" nowadays. Just ask your elected representative...

It means any damn thing they want it to mean.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 11:44 am
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Every potential job is a qualified yes. The trick is extracting a 'no' when you need to.


 
Posted : November 17, 2017 12:52 pm
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Have a couple of kids and you will learn real fast.


 
Posted : December 21, 2017 9:17 pm
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When someone asks me to help them, I remind them that they are asking for help and not for me to do everything for them.

Doing it for them requires more money and incentives.

I work on my time schedule, theirs requires more money and incentives.

The more I insist upon, the more chance I give them to say no.


 
Posted : December 21, 2017 10:34 pm