The guys with 20 years experience are few and far between; but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a party chief with 2 years of experience 10 times.?ÿ
The guys with 20 years experience are few and far between; but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a party chief with 2 years of experience 10 times.?ÿ
Guys with 10 years experience are usually PLS's.
The guys with 20 years experience are few and far between; but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a party chief with 2 years of experience 10 times.?ÿ
It has been my experience that the same problem exists with far too many "Land Surveyors" as well.
I know several folks who traded in their BOOTS for Penny Loafers as soon as they got their "ticket," and pretty much stopped learning anything (or as much) from that point forward.
Just my (unpopular) 2 bits.
Loyal
The guys with 20 years experience are few and far between; but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a party chief with 2 years of experience 10 times.?ÿ
Guys with 10 years experience are usually PLS's.
The hydrology requirement here separates the wheat from the chaff. ?ÿ
You got to really want the license to work all day then spend two days a week for two years driving to the one campus in the state that offers the courses in night school for something that you'll probably never use after the state exam.?ÿ
I could not imagine the amount of professional apathy an individual would need to possess to still be designated a ??field hand? after 20 years...
I could not imagine the amount of professional apathy an individual would need to possess to still be designated a ??field hand? after 20 years...
This industry was built by "(un)Professional Field-hands"?ÿthat were a hardy bunch.?ÿ Proper supervision of?ÿa good seasoned crew of dedicated boneheads could result in a lot of good work done in a short amount of time.?ÿWe don't chain?ÿmiles and?ÿmiles anymore.?ÿ We rarely clear line and opt for field procedures?ÿallowed by our modern equipment.?ÿ?ÿA good "crew member"?ÿis a term that has definitely changed over the years.?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ
But there use to be a breed of workers that loved the work, were good at it...and had absolutely no idea what to do except what their PC told them to do.?ÿ And they did it well.?ÿ I know that sounds crazy, but it was the norm and it worked.?ÿ And there was really no "professional apathy".?ÿ On the contrary there was an esprit de corps that welded together men into a team that was capable of some amazing production.
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I moved west with 20 years experience under my belt. In those 2 decades I worked in every geographic region of the US and several countries on 3 continents. I was a field hand (and a very good one at that). ?ÿIf that's 'professional apathy' I'm happy to be lazy.
I could not imagine the amount of professional apathy an individual would need to possess to still be designated a ??field hand? after 20 years...
Conversely, I can't imagine the amount of professional arrogance required to read the term field hand and think that it's derogatory. ?ÿ
I've got nearly 17 years of field experience and I am licensed in 4 States. There is nothing worse than setting in the office. In my opinion Surveying doesn't happen by spending full days in the office while wearing loafers.
I could not imagine the amount of professional apathy an individual would need to possess to still be designated a ??field hand? after 20 years...
Conversely, I can't imagine the amount of professional arrogance required to read the term field hand and think that it's derogatory. ?ÿ
Talk about making a first post a doozie!?ÿ ?ÿ
Ah, the good old days...
When men still had strong backs and weak minds.
Now before I get beat up in here, let me say that I do respect the work and accomplishments of our past generations, however, at some point we have to realize that this profession is not the same as it was even as little as ten years ago. Challenge yourself, and your people, to be ambitious and do great things, not settle in as a helper. Thats all I??m saying.
Conversely, I can't imagine the amount of professional arrogance required to read the term field hand and think that it's derogatory. ?ÿ
Not derogatory at all. In fact, think it is a great title, just not one that someone should carry for nearly half of their career.?ÿ
I could not imagine the amount of professional apathy an individual would need to possess to still be designated a ??field hand? after 20 years...
This industry was built by "(un)Professional Field-hands"?ÿthat were a hardy bunch.?ÿ Proper supervision of?ÿa good seasoned crew of dedicated boneheads could result in a lot of good work done in a short amount of time.?ÿWe don't chain?ÿmiles and?ÿmiles anymore.?ÿ We rarely clear line and opt for field procedures?ÿallowed by our modern equipment.?ÿ?ÿA good "crew member"?ÿis a term that has definitely changed over the years.?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ
But there use to be a breed of workers that loved the work, were good at it...and had absolutely no idea what to do except what their PC told them to do.?ÿ And they did it well.?ÿ I know that sounds crazy, but it was the norm and it worked.?ÿ And there was really no "professional apathy".?ÿ On the contrary there was an esprit de corps that welded together men into a team that was capable of some amazing production.
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I grew up there.
I am a field hand with on about 20 years. Hard to say which years I did twice, although they are there.?ÿ
The same criticism could be levied at many Survey shops and in a broad case whole sectors of our profession.?ÿ
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I have been registered for 28 years. I have been a field hand for 39 years.
James
