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(@brad-ott)
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From the article linked by RADAR:?ÿ "Two states ƒ?? Arizona and Hawaii ƒ?? already dispense with the biannual time change by staying on standard time year-round."

(used to be Indiana too)

 
Posted : March 12, 2019 8:29 am
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Yep - Arizona is on Mountain Standard Time year round, but Cameron is on the Navajo Reservation.?ÿ Because that encompasses parts of three states, it will be on daylight savings time for much of the year.?ÿ It makes it interesting when scheduling meetings from Flagstaff at times.

 
Posted : March 12, 2019 8:35 am
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Posted by: Warren Smith

Yep - Arizona is on Mountain Standard Time year round, but Cameron is on the Navajo Reservation.?ÿ Because that encompasses parts of three states, it will be on daylight savings time for much of the year.?ÿ It makes it interesting when scheduling meetings from Flagstaff at times.

What's really interesting is trying to attend a meeting with representatives from both the Hopi (MST) and Navajo (DST) tribes, and when the Navajos from New Mexico run on the time at their office in New Mexico even though the meeting is in Arizona. It gets to be a real PIA!?ÿ

 
Posted : March 12, 2019 10:23 am
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NOAA has a spreadsheet that will accurately calculate the mathematical sunrise and sunset time for whatever lat / long you enter.

For my area, Sunrise is 5:16 in the summer and 7:21 in the winter. Standard time.

Sunset is 19:30 for the summer and 17:18 for the winter. Standard time.

It doesn't mater if we stay on standard time all year or daylight saving time all year, the sunrise is still gonna vary by over 2 hours in a year.?ÿ If we stayed on DST all year, the sun would be rising at 8:21 on Dec 21. Most schools and businesses would change their start time to 9:00 instead of 8:00. I don't see that as an improvement, The only people that would are the ones that don't get up until 9am anyway. My opinion is that the current way with DST in the summer keeps the sunrise within a 1 hour +/- window all year long and therefore is best suited for keeping a constant schedule.

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/grad/solcalc/calcdetails.html

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Posted : March 12, 2019 11:05 am
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We don't need no stinking "watches."

Get up when I feel like it!

Take a nap when I feel like it!

Go to bed when I feel like it!

KISS

 
Posted : March 12, 2019 11:09 am
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Was driving to work late this morning, crossing a very busy street was a little boy with a huge backpack running on the icy road and almost invisible cause although it was 7:00 it was still dark,,,,,,,,,,,,Thanks a lot!!!!! Idiots

 
Posted : March 12, 2019 11:36 am
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So Franklin supposedly dreamed this scheme up...HE WAS JOKING - GAWD!

Typical Americans being literalists took it seriously.

 
Posted : March 12, 2019 11:50 am
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The Franklin Institute says that Ben did NOT propose changing the clocks, but rather changing schedules to fit the sun.

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Posted : March 12, 2019 12:41 pm
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I think the Druids had the best solution to the DST stupidity, erect huge monoliths and dare anyone to move them back and forth an hour.?ÿ ?????ÿ

 
Posted : March 12, 2019 3:35 pm
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I read (somewhere) about a mathematician that proposed 'fixing' the times of sunup and sundown and equally varying the constant duration of what we consider an hour to evenly fit between those events.?ÿ His idea was that the hour was merely an arbitrary linear division of a span of time.?ÿ Hence there would be 12 hours between sunup and sundown on any given day of the year.?ÿ?ÿInversely, the shorter the daytime hours during winter; the longer the hours would be during the nighttime.?ÿ I suppose this would mean the only two days a year that night and day hours would be of equal duration would be at each equinox.?ÿ I guess that would make mechanical clocks obsolete, but with all the out-of-work software folks sitting around it wouldn't be anytime at all before Samsung marketed a digital 'clock' that followed the concept.

Although this may seem like an outlandish concept, I kind of like the idea.?ÿ I have been aware for years that my internal 'clock' was more tied to the sun than a chronometer.?ÿ I suppose it would take some getting use to...but probably no harder than waking up at 2 AM and destroying an hour's sleep by changing your alarm clock and pretending it's 3 AM. 😉

 
Posted : March 12, 2019 6:13 pm
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That might work if you never move in an east-west direction...

 
Posted : March 13, 2019 9:50 am
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Since I live in a tourist area we have a lot of businesses with winter/summer hours....

 
Posted : March 13, 2019 10:26 am
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