That thing about the lawn?
That was a joke.
But if you want to see wounds, I can show you scars that would tear your heart out.
🙂
Don
Sheesh, Guys
My response was more to the general tone of the thread. I completely agree with the cherry picking statement. Life has a tendency to cherry pick as well. It isn't often the lazy and ignorant among us rise to the top. That being said I've worked for an outlier or two in my time... Have a good Sunday..
Sheesh, Guys
"It isn't often the lazy and ignorant among us rise to the top."
I actually meet both those criteria and I definitely haven't made it to the top, but I'm happy enough.:-)
You're a good one, bio guy, and thanks again for your service.
Don
That thing about the lawn?
Thanks, Gavin.
Don
Ummm... there's some good ones out there
I've got three working here at our research center (LSU Center for GeoInformatics) for the summer. Had seven to start, but illness and heavy course load got to some. The three remaining are all butts and elbows all day long. Really excellent kids, well-mannered, and sharp as a tack. (The other four were all just as good, too).
I have found that if they're an upper classman in the College of Engineering, there are zero slackers.
Lots of comments from guys whose kids...
Lots of comments from guys whose kids were kids a generation ago.
What I hate, dislike, am annoyed by are education and medical establishments that teach children about their "rights". Those rights typically translate to things that they don't need to tell their parents about, don't need to seek a parents permission or input for, and the right to thumb their noses at household and family rules that were simply taken for granted as being the proper way to run a household a generation or two ago.
Maybe some of your kids are experiencing these things while trying to raise their kids. I started late in life and often regret it as the social-worker element gets deeper roots in all other elements of childrens' lives. Had I started a family at a younger age, my kids would be dealing with these social work idiots while trying to raise my grandkids.
Maybe my family has been more exposed to it because of having adopted kids. Maybe there'd be less of it if they were in private schools. Maybe it's because we live in California where the nuts & flakes have taken over and hold the keys to the asylum.
I was never beaten or anything like that when I was a kid, but much of the parenting style my folks used with my brother and I would now be either considered illegal or worse - unacceptable to the ultralib socialworker controlled institutions that our kids must pass through.
When gong through interviews to complete the adoption of one of our daughters, when the question of discipline came up, we answered honestly - among other things, we would occasionally spank.
Next thing we know, CPS is investigating us and the social worker supervisor at the adoption agency is literally out of control screaming at me about stripping my kids nekkid and beating them with a stick. Huh? What? Don't recall ever doing such a thing and wouldn't tolerate it if I saw anyone else doing it to any kid, much less mine. Didn't matter, in her mind a stining smack on th ebehind was no different than making a kid stand on hot coals while peeling the skin off their back and doing awful things to humiliate them in public.
Fortunately, the investigator at CPS had to make evaluations with regard to the law and properly found that any discipline methods we employed were still well within it. The adoption social workers were incensed that spanking was still allowed under the law but couldn't deny us based solely on that. So we agreed to see a family counselor on contract with the adoption agency for several weeks.
At the end of that, the counselor declared our kids well adjusted, observed that our son was likely to act out much more if he knew he couldn't get spanked, that he had no viable recommendations to replace that method in this case, and that we were not likely to change our methods. Again, the adoption social workers were entirely frustrated at being thwarted. The adoption went through. I doubt that counselor's contract was renewed.
We find that we have to work a lot more to counteract much of what is conveyed to our kids about appropriately behaving toward others than our parents had to with us. We strive to teach them manners and consideration of those around them. Our kids need to be re-educated from time to time that name brand clothes, participation in multiple extracurricular activities, and ice cream or Jamba Juice when they want it are not rights, and that along with being a member of a family comes responsibilities like cleaning their rooms and keeping up with their share of the household chores. Compared to many other kids I see around, mine seem better behaved, and quite a bit more respectful. But damm, it's a lot of work when it seems like there are so many influences in their lives that are undermining the decency you try to instill into them!
Lots of comments from guys whose kids...
2 Timothy 3:1-5
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Lots of comments from guys whose kids...
> Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
I turn away every chance I get. But I'd still like to kick some butt ever now and again..
You know, the Good Book also tells us that vengeance belongs only to God. I believe that..
but nowhere in the Bible does it tell us we can't stand on the sidewalk and cheer when God delivers his vengeance. 😉
