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I'm concerned about several things...
A whole town is somewhat destroyed.

Oil prices. Lot's of oil refineries down there.

And, odd opportunities to go and help clean up the aftermath. Which, the faster that happens, the sooner they will recover.

Wow.

I cannot imagine 51" of rain, in a 24-48 hr period.

This is wet.

N

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 4:21 am
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http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?latitude=29.95&longitude=-90.08&zoomLevel=8&opacity=1&basemap=0014&layers=0039

On the site above you can turn on layer "roads and weather" and it will show the extent of water levels in and around Houston area

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 4:40 am
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 443841, member: 291 wrote:

I'm concerned about several things...
A whole town is somewhat destroyed.

Oil prices. Lot's of oil refineries down there.

And, odd opportunities to go and help clean up the aftermath. Which, the faster that happens, the sooner they will recover.

Wow.

I cannot imagine 51" of rain, in a 24-48 hr period.

This is wet.

N

It is just a terrible thing for all to have to go through. What do you do? So many people just go through their daily lives with the expectations that it will never happen to them. I think that way every time there is a tornado warning issued for my area. But the sad truth is - It will happen. One day. The harsh reality is the Government can only do so much, and they are there to only do so much but not everything. Just a sad situation. Say your prayers, give thanks, and be prepared to care for yourself and family.

Here is an interesting article..

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41073878

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 6:56 am
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I got a call yesterday from a daughter that lives in Pinedale, Wyoming and they winter in Rockport, saying that they are heading down there next week to see if they have anything left of their place. From what I saw on the news, Rockport really got hit, so it's doubtful they have anything left.

One boy lives in Baytown (Houston area) and he has 6"?ñ of water in his house and shop. Another boy lives about 20 miles South of Lampasses, between there and Austin, and he apparantly never got more than rains, not the high winds.

I have a brother that lives North of Marshall and haven't heard anything about his status, probably far enough inland to not get the brunt of the storm.

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 9:37 am
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Charles L. Dowdell, post: 443900, member: 82 wrote: I got a call yesterday from a daughter that lives in Pinedale, Wyoming and they winter in Rockport, saying that they are heading down there next week to see if they have anything left of their place.

[USER=82]@Charles L. Dowdell[/USER] Please be there for your daughter, as she will find Rockport in ruins. I have friends there on rescue squads, and it is devastating. Please remind them there will be almost no food or water available, to please carry such items in with them. The HEB in Ingleside is going to try to be up with emergency supplies by tomorrow, but it will not be a normal shopping experience. Corpus did not have much damage, but as it is so near the damage, it is doing all it can to support efforts to the north.

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 10:11 am
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Posted : August 29, 2017 10:15 am
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There really are no words........

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 10:37 am
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We had a record flood here in 2008 that was in a much smaller area, but 12 ft over downtown streets and into houses further from the river than anyone imagined possible.

I got a bit of experience with cleanup and know those folks have a nightmare ahead even if they got out safely.

If you work cleanup make sure your tetanus shot is up to date. They had vaccination sites for anyone involved here. Flood water is filthy.

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 5:34 pm
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Six inches for six hours will wreak havoc. Sheetrock acts like a sponge. Clothing dangling in a closet can soak up gallons of water before breaking the support rod.

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 7:51 pm
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 443841, member: 291 wrote:

I'm concerned about several things...
A whole town is somewhat destroyed.

Okay, I suppose you know that the photo you posted was taken after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, right? As a point of curiosity, what led you to believe that was a current photo of Houston?

http://amazingspace.org/news/archive/2016/01/photo-01b.php

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 9:16 pm
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Holy Cow, post: 444002, member: 50 wrote: Six inches for six hours will wreak havoc. Sheetrock acts like a sponge. Clothing dangling in a closet can soak up gallons of water before breaking the support rod.

The damage to the infrastructure will take years to repair. Primarily visible is damage to the transportation routes followed by the utility grids and distribution. What no one can ascertain without close and detailed inspection is the damage to something like the sanitary sewer and public water supply systems. Collapsed MHs and collection routes sucked full of silt can be a nightmare to repair. Domestic and public water wells are virtually useless after inundating floods. Domestic water supplies and mains that have been compromised due to flood scouring will all have to be repaired/ cleaned and inspected before getting them back on line.

What a mess. Real estate in Houston is taking a big hickey on this one.

One of the talking heads on the tv (surely searching frantically for something worthwhile to say) was pondering what could have been done to mitigate damage to the infrastructure. That's a really worthless and hollow subject. Lincoln should have stayed home instead of going to the theater that evening too. Discussing it now is a waste of good oxygen.

I pray for the best for everyone down there.

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 9:32 pm
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paden cash, post: 444011, member: 20 wrote: One of the talking heads on the tv (surely searching frantically for something worthwhile to say) was pondering what could have been done to mitigate damage to the infrastructure. That's a really worthless and hollow subject. Lincoln should have stayed home instead of going to the theater that evening too. Discussing it now is a waste of good oxygen.

Not really. It's a matter of learning from mistakes. I'm sure you'l recall that the federal rule focused on just such a topic was in the news recently, and not in a good way:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/climate/flooding-infrastructure-climate-change-trump-obama.html?mcubz=3&_r=0

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 9:44 pm
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I mean, the reality is that global warming is having a large effect upon climate patterns and the increase in intensity and frequency of hurricanes resulting from rising ocean temperatures is among those.

It's beyond foolish not to plan for the new landscape that will result from the causal factors already in play. Fortunately, all accomodations won't have to be completed next week. That's good, because a significant fraction of the construction workers needed will be from Mexico and Central America and may not have visas already.

 
Posted : August 29, 2017 9:58 pm
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Keep on keeping on...

[MEDIA=youtube]hCfYOlxtYVI[/MEDIA]

 
Posted : August 30, 2017 2:41 am
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Actually, there's been an unprecedented hurricane 'drought' the warming folks are just jumping back on this bandwagon for the simple minded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/08/04/the-u-s-coast-is-in-an-unprecedented-hurricane-drought-why-this-is-terrifying/?utm_term=.b3a407978f72

Steve

 
Posted : August 30, 2017 4:13 am
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 443841, member: 291 wrote:

I'm concerned about several things...
A whole town is somewhat destroyed.

Oil prices. Lot's of oil refineries down there.

And, odd opportunities to go and help clean up the aftermath. Which, the faster that happens, the sooner they will recover.

Wow.

I cannot imagine 51" of rain, in a 24-48 hr period.

This is wet.

N

Back in the 1979 a Tropical Storm Claudette Parked over Alvin, Brazoria County, Texas.

Result was 42" in 24 hours.

I was on the northeast edge in Pasadena, Harris County, Texas. We got 9"-13".

 
Posted : August 30, 2017 9:59 am
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Kent McMillan, post: 444008, member: 3 wrote: Okay, I suppose you know that the photo you posted was taken after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, right? As a point of curiosity, what led you to believe that was a current photo of Houston?

http://amazingspace.org/news/archive/2016/01/photo-01b.php

Mr. McMillan,
How were you able to find that?
Do you have an app for that? Are you one of them that can't forget anything?
I can't remember what I ate for lunch on Monday.

JA, PLS SoCal

 
Posted : August 30, 2017 4:14 pm
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Charles L. Dowdell, post: 443900, member: 82 wrote: I got a call yesterday from a daughter that lives in Pinedale, Wyoming and they winter in Rockport, saying that they are heading down there next week to see if they have anything left of their place. From what I saw on the news, Rockport really got hit, so it's doubtful they have anything left.

One boy lives in Baytown (Houston area) and he has 6"?ñ of water in his house and shop. Another boy lives about 20 miles South of Lampasses, between there and Austin, and he apparantly never got more than rains, not the high winds.

I have a brother that lives North of Marshall and haven't heard anything about his status, probably far enough inland to not get the brunt of the storm.

Just in case you are wondering. Weather hasn't been bad near Marshall. On and off light rain started today. Major rain has gone east

 
Posted : August 30, 2017 4:27 pm
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TXSurveyor, post: 444189, member: 6719 wrote: Just in case you are wondering. Weather hasn't been bad near Marshall. On and off light rain started today. Major rain has gone east

Right-Click on the image and select "Search Google for Image"

 
Posted : August 30, 2017 5:04 pm
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Jerry Attrick, post: 444187, member: 1585 wrote: Mr. McMillan,
How were you able to find that?
Do you have an app for that? Are you one of them that can't forget anything?
I can't remember what I ate for lunch on Monday.

JA, PLS SoCal

Right-Click on the image and select "Search Google for Image"

 
Posted : August 30, 2017 5:05 pm
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