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Posted : March 29, 2020 5:14 pm
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There are all sorts of these floating around out there right now.?ÿ One announces, "Day 3 of Home Schooling------Everyone graduates today".?ÿ Another says something about prayer being back in school but it's the teacher, not the students.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 7:15 am
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Mrs. Cow started a ZOOM meeting at 10:00 a.m. our time to kick off the first day of schooling since March 12.?ÿ Many parents will be listening in because they are stuck at home, too.?ÿ They have more questions than the kids do.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 7:17 am
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I'll bet 80% of forced home schooling parents are clueless from the forth grade up. ???ý 

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 9:10 am
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Remember the crap they fed us 55 years ago that was labeled "new math".  Well, they threw that out, plus a couple newer attempts at teaching math.  The stuff they try to make them do today only vaguely resembles the math teachings we had.  That is what makes it so difficult.  We KNOW the answer.  We simply can't provide the answer in the manner the freshly taught teacher expects.  Knowing the information is far less important than knowing the process as to how we arrived at that answer.  So, the answer is more of an essay than merely saying 42.34 square meters.

I remember the early days of computer programming when we had to write out the exact process and the order of that process in order to do something as simple as calculating the result of some magic formula by providing the value of each variable and constant.  That was torture.  We could grab the magic formula and the inputs and have the answer in under thirty seconds.  But, that was for only one calculation.  We had to learn how to describe the process for the general case or for a situation where we wanted to run it many times but with slight changes to the values of the inputs.  Today, they insist the student understand how the process is created, starting in the lowest school grade possible.

And that, folks, is why the parents appear to be ignorant.  They weren't taught the same material.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 9:51 am
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@holy-cow  And they get taught multiple (ha-ha, see what I did there!) ways to complete a calculation or display or break down a number--each has a different name that they have to recognize. One kid is learning how to write numbers in standard, expanded, and word forms. 

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 10:26 am
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Posted by: @holy-cow

And that, folks, is why the parents appear to be ignorant.?ÿ They weren't taught the same material.

But if they brought a textbook home, and it is any good, an intelligent parent should be able to help the kids understand what it says.?ÿ And this stuff is probaby standardized enough that you can find helpful explanations on line.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 10:34 am
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No one ever said parents were intelligent.  Most are not going to make the effort to teach themselves everything their kid(s) are working on at this time.  The few who would make that effort already have kids who can handle things on their own.  Most of the kids who need the most help arrived in this world to parents who did not do well at school back in their day.  Also, there are so many grandparents attempting to raise grandchildren because they failed twenty to forty years ago at doing a good job of raising their own children.  They are another generation behind in comprehending what today's subject matter entails.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 11:18 am
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Posted : March 30, 2020 11:39 am
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My daughter is a high school teacher.?ÿ She is bored out of her mind.?ÿ Parks are being closed so she can't even get out and walk the trails.?ÿ She has been to our house a couple of times because we have a couple of miles of sidewalk that she can cover.

I pressure washed our patio, disassembled the grill, scraped and scrubbed a years worth of grime and smoke out of it, and have it ready to go.?ÿ Now we just have a half inch or so of pollen to cover it all back up.

Y'all just stay in and let's get this thing out of the way.

Andy

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 1:29 pm
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intelligent parent

That's an oxymoron these days.?ÿ

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 1:43 pm
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Daughter in law is doing the Kindergarten curriculum every day with 5.75 year old Grandson. They seem to be doing well.?ÿWe are staying separate from them for now, don't want to transmit it either way.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 1:54 pm
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@flga

You're absolutely right.

It's crazy that you have to pass a test to get a DL, but the only test you need to pass for procreation is possibly a Wassermann.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 3:01 pm
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That might be a problem for me.  I didn't graduate Kindergarten.

Of course, that might be because I didn't go to Kindergarten.  There was no formal Kindergarten within 10 miles of our house.  That one would probably be considered more like Pre-K today.  For my classmates the standard rule was:  If you were born in 1953, welcome to First Grade.  Sink or swim.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 5:49 pm
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@dave-karoly

That might be a problem for me.?ÿ I didn't graduate Kindergarten.

Of course, that might be because I didn't go to Kindergarten.?ÿ There was no formal Kindergarten within 10 miles of our house.?ÿ That one would probably be considered more like Pre-K today.?ÿ For my classmates the standard rule was:?ÿ If you were born in 1953, welcome to First Grade.?ÿ Sink or swim.

My father turned 5 (or 6 whatever) when they lived on a ranch somewhere in Idaho. They moved to Salt Lake City the next year. He had a sister 1 year younger than him, and when my Grandmother took them both to school that year, they refused to let my Dad start the First Grade, because he hadn't "graduated" from Kindergarten yet. He spent the next 12 years (almost, he was drafted several months into his senior year) going to school in the same classes as his little Sister.?ÿ

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 6:49 pm
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My father had the opposite case.  He was an only child and his mother couldn't stand to let him start school so young so she held him out of what should have been his First Grade year.  He started the next year in a two-room school so was in a room with First through Fourth Grade.  He went through those four years in only three, so he caught up to where he should have been.  Graduated high school when he should have.  Times were different back then.

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 7:20 pm
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If you were born in 1953, welcome to First Grade.?ÿ Sink or swim.

I was born near the end of '49 and went to kindergarten '55-'56.?ÿ Nearly all kids my age around there had kindergarten.

My K and 1st grade were in a one-room school a half mile from home with K-8 under one teacher. Maybe a dozen or 15 kids. It was one of the later rural schools in the county, but not the last, to close.

I've always thought I got ahead of the town kids, by mixing with the older ones and overhearing their lessons in that same room.

Another early boost was a mother who read to me. I think I could read some when I started K. One of my early "snapshot memories" is sitting on her lap while she wrote a letter and saying that i knew when she wrote about me because of that popcorn letter (script B).

 
Posted : March 30, 2020 7:24 pm
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My first three years of school were only for an eight month period rather than nine as many other schools used.?ÿ In earlier decades that number was seven months and even six months.?ÿ However, the children were advanced based on their ability to prove they knew the information they were expected to know at the end of each grade level.?ÿ My older sister had to submit to a county-wide eighth grade examination before she was allowed to move on to high school.?ÿ Somehow, that requirement went away before my time to do it.?ÿ My father spoke of having a seventeen year-old girl in his eighth grade class because she still hadn't passed the county test.?ÿ I think she was simply lazy.?ÿ Of her three children, one has a PhD, one has a Masters in plant pathology and the third completed college but never used it.

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 4:57 am
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the boy is in a Waldorf Kindergarten which is more traditional. They do 2 years by default, occasionally 1 year but most do 2 years. They also mostly start at 4 but he started at 5. Teachers said he will be doing year 2 which we agree is best. Rushing kids can be counterproductive.

My Mother tried to have my brother do a 2nd year (born 1952, he is 1 of 5) but the school said no and she didn't push it. When I came along (born 1962, I am 5 of 5) she was more assertive and different City too. So I did 2 years of K which was unusual. Our oldest did a 5 day Pre-School at age 5 then K at age 6. That was an Episcopal Grammar School, they are still there but we decided Waldorf would be a better fit for him.

 
Posted : March 31, 2020 7:01 am
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...Of her three children, one has a PhD, one has a Masters in plant pathology and the third completed college but never used it.

I had a classmate in the 7th. grade that had his own car and license.?ÿ If I remember correctly he was trying to attain enough knowledge and/or age to enter the military.?ÿ Perry was definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer.?ÿ I guess he finally did something as he was gone the next year.

Fast forward to the early '90s.?ÿ I was picking up some junk at an Auto Zone standing in the line at the register.?ÿ The man in front of me was paying by check and I recognized his name.?ÿ It was Perry...Dr. Perry, MD.?ÿ I had to ask. And yes it was really him.?ÿ We caught up almost thirty years on the sidewalk.

Perry made it to the Navy, trained as corpsman in Viet Nam and continued his career and medical education in the military over the years.?ÿ Quite the turnaround from someone that could have been one of the cast from the movie Grease.?ÿ

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Posted : March 31, 2020 7:20 am
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