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If there is such a thing as the ultimate truth, does that mean then that there must also be an ultimate lie?

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 5:43 pm
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If there is it probably starts "Yes Dear " or "No Dear"

As in

"Yes,Dear, your mother is welcome to come stay"

or

"No Dear, your butt does not look big in that"

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 5:57 pm
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Brad Ott, post: 447127, member: 197 wrote: If there is such a thing as the ultimate truth, does that mean then that there must also be an ultimate lie?

More like MANY ultimate lies IMO.

My statement above does not imply the need for an ultimate truth.

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Posted : September 17, 2017 6:04 pm
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Remember, when the computer spit out 42, there was no standard deviation, Chi Square bounds, or other statistical "lies."

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Posted : September 17, 2017 6:07 pm
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The ultimate lie would be "There is no truth."

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 6:24 pm
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Brad Ott, post: 447127, member: 197 wrote: If there is such a thing as the ultimate truth, does that mean then that there must also be an ultimate lie?

For crying out loud, Brad, you have gotten both deep and dark since I've been away.
In any case, your question can be answered only by...wait for it...yourself!

When the student is ready, the master appears. You may be ready; you have probably been ready for a while and I wouldn't be surprised if the teacher is actually here on this board. It certainly isn't me. I'm a kindergartner myself, but it may be, maybe not, but could be, someone silly. That would be my guess 🙂

Don

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 6:30 pm
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Brad Ott, post: 447127, member: 197 wrote: If there is such a thing as the ultimate truth, does that mean then that there must also be an ultimate lie?

If you apply the physical laws of our visible realm to the ethereal there must be equal amounts of both. Newton reckoned that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And I believe for as much good that occur in our reality there is probably an equal amount of (for lack of a better word) evil.

But then we find ourselves attempting to dissect truths and lies to categorize them. An impossibility I believe. Truths can be evil and lies can ultimately be for a good cause. To identify each would be a matter of perception.

I prefer to believe the ultimate truth would fall in the category of reality as discernible facts within the physics of our existence.

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 6:50 pm
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Pilate asked the question "what is truth?"
Nate

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 7:20 pm
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Another ultimate lie: "There are no lies."

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 8:11 pm
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Absolutes never exist.

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 8:16 pm
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Ultimately, yes there is, just don't hurry.............

 
Posted : September 17, 2017 9:21 pm
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Holy Cow, post: 447145, member: 50 wrote: Absolutes never exist.

There are some in existence. And they are for the betterment of mankind and brotherhood. 😉

 
Posted : September 18, 2017 1:40 am
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Depends

 
Posted : September 18, 2017 3:55 am
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Jack Nicholson explained this years ago. "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"

 
Posted : September 18, 2017 11:08 am
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Posted : September 18, 2017 12:28 pm
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paden cash, post: 447134, member: 20 wrote: If you apply the physical laws of our visible realm to the ethereal there must be equal amounts of both. Newton reckoned that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And I believe for as much good that occur in our reality there is probably an equal amount of (for lack of a better word) evil.

But then we find ourselves attempting to dissect truths and lies to categorize them. An impossibility I believe. Truths can be evil and lies can ultimately be for a good cause. To identify each would be a matter of perception.

I prefer to believe the ultimate truth would fall in the category of reality as discernible facts within the physics of our existence.

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Posted : September 18, 2017 12:29 pm