I find it funny that there are more forgeries, and crud like that, relating to surveys than many things.
I had a client once TRACE another surveyors plat, and all, right down to the Seal. And, he had modified some boundaries. Said all he really needed was "an updated seal" on this plat.
I found it funny... in an odd sort of way. He told me he had done it, and anyway, I wound up surveying it. things were way different.... It was in Hot Springs, Thornton Ferry Road.
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I'd like to know more details! Including who's stamp was being used. Difficult to forge a stamp without access to it. A signature is another matter.
Paul D, post: 346858, member: 323 wrote: I'd like to know more details! Including who's stamp was being used. Difficult to forge a stamp without access to it. A signature is another matter.
Can't you just order a stamp made with that name and number? Seems simpler than forging a signature to me...?
Regardless of whether he signed the wrong document or not, it is the person's responsibility to know what they are signing because once signed they are responsible in the end.
I am a firm believer that one must sign and personally seal their own work.
Having someone to push papers in front of me and say, sign this, just does not work for me.
With the input of digital seals, this is becoming more of an event in firms with more than one professional.
When using ink stamps and crimped seals, it is just not that possible for one to apply the wrong seal to anything, especially at ones own desk.
Years ago there was a feller that was using a dead man's seal. He was from a place and an era of long ago when they just looked the other way knowing the man needed to work and make a living without a care of how well the work was being accomplished. That same area still has some improvements to be made to make their way into the modern world of accountability.
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I'm sure it was all a big misunderstanding......
I suppose you are correct, reading the story he tries to play it off as a mistake. If he went and ordered another's seal there is no denying the forgery.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 346854, member: 291 wrote: I find it funny that there are more forgeries, and crud like that, relating to surveys than many things.
I had a client once TRACE another surveyors plat, and all, right down to the Seal. And, he had modified some boundaries. Said all he really needed was "an updated seal" on this plat.
I found it funny... in an odd sort of way. He told me he had done it, and anyway, I wound up surveying it. things were way different.... It was in Hot Springs, Thornton Ferry Road.N
I was in Hot Springs in September but did not do any surveying. What I did find at the Smithsonian bath house museum was this orange and blue colored "Tiger Toilet Paper". With that being Auburn's nickname and colors along with their tradition of rolling trees (now poles) in the center of town after a football victory, and as an Alabama fan, I was both amused and slightly insulted! 
The only thing missing is a picture of Saban's face..........:-O
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I got a PE stamp when I ordered my RPLS stamp.
Saved me a bunch of time as far as college and studying goes.
$24 dollars - priceless!
(I really did - stamped one of my books and then returned it for the real deal)
It really is that easy.
When I ordered my stamps/seal they asked for a copy of my license and checked my ID when I picked it up.
Reminds me of this.
http://www.bels.alabama.gov/pdf/actions/Harvel_Derek_L-PLS_18387.pdf
Tommy Young, post: 347007, member: 703 wrote: Reminds me of this.
http://www.bels.alabama.gov/pdf/actions/Harvel_Derek_L-PLS_18387.pdf
I can't believe his license was only revoked for two years.
paden cash, post: 347010, member: 20 wrote: I can't believe his license was only revoked for two years.
It hasn't yet been reinstated.
Tommy Young, post: 347015, member: 703 wrote: It hasn't yet been reinstated.
That's probably a good thing.
Just for funnies I called the local "stamp & seal" store here in town to find out the requirements for obtaining an ink stamp (I am still using a 35 year old rubber stamp that has seen better days). If it is a newly issued license they want a letter from the State Agency governing the profession. If it's a replacement, all they need is a look at the old one and a driver's license.
Good to know they have some sort of check....
paden cash, post: 347021, member: 20 wrote: That's probably a good thing.
Just for funnies I called the local "stamp & seal" store here in town to find out the requirements for obtaining an ink stamp (I am still using a 35 year old rubber stamp that has seen better days). If it is a newly issued license they want a letter from the State Agency governing the profession. If it's a replacement, all they need is a look at the old one and a driver's license.
Good to know they have some sort of check....
That's good, but for all we know, this clown drew it up in AutoCAD and then forged the signature.
I've gotten stamps from 2 different online sources over the past 4 years and neither required any verification. I assumed they checked my credentials via the online license verification websites that both state have.
Wow. If they are going to start prosecuting stuff like this, it could end the practice of architecture...
