Kudos to Chris Duncan for your attitude toward surveying. The surveying profession would be better off with an approach like this.
As for ILC or mortgage surveys or As-Builts as they are called here in Alaska. As far as I know they are legal in many states and make up a large percentage of some surveying companies workload. Flying into Denver I am always amazed at the number of canned subdivisions that stretch into the horizon. More curves and cul-de-sacs than I could have imagined. Surely surveyors don’t expect people to have a complete boundary survey in an established subdivision every time the house is bought or sold. That’s what As-Builts are for. I have performed 1000’s of them as an employee in several states and when I started my business I vowed never to do one. After 15 years I can’t say it was a good thing to exclude from services but I have seen several problems occur because of them. I believe they underrepresent what a surveyor has to do to accomplish a decent boundary product, are priced way too cheap for the liability and overall hurt the profession. As a kicker I purchased a house many years ago and because an as-built was required for closing I requested another surveying company perform it – conflict of interest for me. I purchased property relying on the surveyor to represent the property correctly. After several years went to refinance it due to rates. At the closing I noticed an exception in the description and low and behold find out the surveyor had missed an unplatted subdivision/purchase done by the local borough on the property and I have 4000sq feet less than I thought. Can’t subdivide property now due to not enough square feet so lost $50,000 in value of land. I wanted to sue surveyor for sure but couldn’t do it because of fear of karma.
Go ahead and call it pride, if it makes you feel superior.
And this has nothing to do with anyone else dictating what is acceptable.
As said many times, this is something, apart from a boundary survey, developed to fulfill the needs of the lenders, and the Board has come up with rules for them. No one is suggesting this as a replacement for boundary surveys. And outlawing them isn't necessarily going to increase the number of boundary surveys.
It's like saying that you won't do a topo or a flood cert on a lot unless you perform a boundary survey also.
You don't like them, great. I don't love them either. I've never done one in my life. But I'm not going to complain about the practice and those who do them, as long as they're in compliance with the rules, and they're not passing them off as full surveys of the properties.
Kevin & Vern
DORA knows about these guys and the out of state LS, who was issued a LOA
and the two owners of this company were issued a Cease & Desist,
but they continue to operate even today after 1-1/2 years [msg=152601]See this[/msg] [msg=200436]and this [/msg]
http://beerleg.com/index.php?mode=thread&id=152601#p152675
http://beerleg.com/index.php?mode=thread&id=200436#p200504
Need to scroll down to see the DORA Cease & Desist Order
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A topo survey becomes a boundary survey when you show the location of the boundary.
A site plan becomes a boundary survey when you show where everything is in relation to the boundary.
A pipeline survey becomes a boundary survey when you show where the pipeline crosses the boundary.
When you show the boundary on your sketch, ILCs, or mortgage inspections, or house locations, or whatever, you have made a statement that you know where that boundary is and where that the boundary is located in relation to some structure.
So, does you whatever show the boundary?
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