Property is 1 Acres a reserved from a tract of 4 Acres.
4 Acre description:
Beginning at a rock on the line of William Martin land;
Thence W 78-1/2' crossing branch to a rock corner;
Thence S 47' to a rock corner;
Thence N W to the back line of Patent joining Newmans on the top of a ridge to a rock;
Thence to the right with the to the beginning corner containing four acres, more or less
Excepted and reserved 1 Acre (property hired to survey):
Begininning at a rock on the line of William Martin land;
Thence W 78-1/2 feet crossing branch to a rock corner;
Thence S. 47 feet to rock corner;
Thence N.W. to the back line of patent joining Newmans on the top of ridge to a rock;
Thence to the right with the same 90 feet to a rock;
Thence W. a straight line to rock corner;
Thence S. 43 feet to the beginning containing 1 Acre more or less.
The 4 Acres originally 'surveyed' (I use that word loosely) came out of an almost 2,000 Acres which is a BUNCH of smaller tracts. I found which tract it came out of, a tract that had been originally surveyed in 1837 and said to contain 330 Acres. It was later surveyed again in 1874 and found to contain 640 Acres.
I have found one of the rock corners for sure. But that's about it. I know the location of a couple other corners (rocks long gone) but still need to verify it will fit with what the deed says.
I was going to continue but as I sit here and type about this and study the deeds and topo, I might have figured it out.
I might finish this thing if they give me back my license. I think I got it!
> I might finish this thing if they give me back my license. I think I got it!
If they give you back your license!!??
I sure as heck missed something along the way.
Yea, I may have missed something or you didn't post the whole story, but it sounds like there is going to be som deed resolution. I've done a parcel the was similar, where I had 3.9 acres, of something like 16 or twenty, anyway, all the lots had similar metes and bounds, no degrees, minutes, seconds, just directions, like easterly to three carvings in an oak tree (growth alone changed the location of the corner), so we surveyed the entire block for some original markers and such, we enned up giving all the lots their acrage, and setting corners with the new information, of course there is some selling and proof to be showed to the other land owners, but it goes with the territory, all worked out well and we got the job to set everyone' corners.
I hope this helps.
$25000
I will bring my bag of rocks.
Heck yes, I'd take it. Love those old puzzles.
> If they give you back your license!!??
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> I sure as heck missed something along the way.
Yeah. kind of like that. My license were placed in 'inactive' status. So I can't survey anymore.
I wasn't going to post about it but I guess I wrote what I was thinking when I typed that last night.
I don't care anymore so it does not matter.
I figured if I posted about it and somebody from the board read it, it might hurt my chances of getting my license placed back into 'active'
didn't mean to post just yet. I hit enter and it posted for some reason. Will continue in another post.
> I figured if I posted about it and somebody from the board read it, it might hurt my chances of getting my license placed back into 'active'
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> didn't mean to post just yet. I hit enter and it posted for some reason. Will continue in another post.
I would bet Wendell or Angel would let you delete the post or change it to some extent.
Sorry I pointed it out.
Nah. Not worried about it. Somebody from the board of surveyors may be on here but not likely. Either way I wrote them a letter and last tuesday they were supposed to read it and make a final decision.
I've pretty much determined I won't be surveying anymore, at least for a while even if they do restore my license. The brains need a break.
I have a very long and boring post ready to go though. I typed it up last night as I expect to get the snail mail today or tomorrow.
My delima is posting board of surveyor issues on here. Would it cross an ethical line I am to uphold? (thats kind of a joke that I suppose me and about three other people might get) I don't want to make them look bad and of course I don't exactly want to make me look bad either.
I will say that they said I broke a rule, while I disagree and believe I did not break said rule. They are the boss so a reversal based on a little ol' letter by me doesn't seem likely. I guess I said that vaguely enough to make the long and boring post possibly interesting.
I don't know why I even care either direction on this. Like my long and boring post is going to matter in some greater scheme in my life. 🙂
I don't have a problem discussing the issue with other surveyors. If I made a mistake then they could learn from it.
I do not feel it unethical to discuss decisions made by the board with my peers. You guys would be able to give me some great advice (as some of you have through email/phone. thanks)
For sure, research subject and adjoiners might take an hour or two rather than 20 minutes. Plot up and see what the math looks like when all rotated to common base. Calls to common "rock" in any adjoiners? Go to search locations and find rocks. Harmonize the mons and descriptions. Set mons, map and record. Deposit payment. Requires active license.
> For sure, research subject and adjoiners might take an hour or two rather than 20 minutes. Plot up and see what the math looks like when all rotated to common base. Calls to common "rock" in any adjoiners? Go to search locations and find rocks. Harmonize the mons and descriptions. Set mons, map and record. Deposit payment. Requires active license.
Had an active license when I took the job.:-D
I hope you were joking about an hour or two to properly trace this back.
There is a rock called for in one of the four deeds that join. And a farely recent (within last ten years) survey was performed on the northerly side of subject property that calls for this rock and I found said rock when my clients didn't show up (when I still had an active license). However the surveyor did not mention the subject parcel in his description. Wisely so as he couldn't verify, which of the two, either 1 Acre or 3 Acres the rock was a corner to if either. You first have to figure out if the land owners, most likely are the ones that 'surveyed' it, new which way north was.
Without an active license I shouldn't be looking in the file at all. It might be considered surveying. 😉
I'm not on a board, and don't know their policies, other than which is public information. However, I would hope a board would differentiate between a blatant unethical breaking of a rule (like willfully using someone else's license number, or stealing from a client, or moving a boundary to help his/her client) over a misunderstanding in judgement, or a slight difference in opinion as to whether something was correct or not.
I am not saying that a surveyor shouldn't be professional and shouldn't have to pay for his or her mistakes, but I would expect that if you could show the board of registration that you fully believed you were acting ethically and within the law, they would be more likely to make your "punishment" comperable to the level of the infraction. Hopefully your letter adequately got your point across.
That is just my opinion, and not based on any real area of expertise on this matter.
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read new thread "my inactive license"
I think you can do anything you want with the file. What you cannot do is certify anything nor express a surveyor's opinion to your client about conclusions nor set any mons.
In WA and OR, ANYONE can fill out a Land Corner Record form and file it. No PLS required. You don't have to state the meaning of the evidence at all, just I found this here pipe and found and set these witnesses. Signed: John Q. Public. Some of these layman LCR's are next to useless, but many are by others with good knowledge and skills and make a better LCR than some surveyors.
Hope you can negotiate and comply with you BOR and get reinstated soon.
Regards,
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